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Title: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: marauder23 on July 06, 2012, 07:49:05 PM
Anyone compared these two carbines closely in .22? I am headed to an Air Wolf in .22 I think but decided to give these carbines a look first. I see folks adding LDCs to the Huntsman XL. Are they loud with the stock shroud? Let me know your experiences with both.

http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/Daystate/HuntsmanXL.htm (http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/Daystate/HuntsmanXL.htm)
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/tbln930/HuntsmanXL.png)

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/air-arms-s510-xtra-fac-pcp-carbine?m=2497 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/air-arms-s510-xtra-fac-pcp-carbine?m=2497)
(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/tbln930/Air-Arms-S510-Carbine-RH-Walnut_S510C22SX30RWO_rifle_lg.jpg)





Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: gamo2hammerli on July 06, 2012, 09:46:11 PM
I've the AA S410SL carbine....and it's pretty loud on high power.  A few members here have the regular length barrel and say they're very quiet.  I guess the PCP carbines in general would be pretty loud on high power.
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: marauder23 on July 06, 2012, 10:13:08 PM
Thanks. The specials on the Huntsman XL being run include the Airstream CF permanently installed. I bet that helps some.
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: grumpy on July 06, 2012, 11:33:58 PM
I have the huntsman and its airstream does help tame it a bit.
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: rkr on July 07, 2012, 02:49:38 PM
Those shrouds are quite small really due to the diameter. In UK people usually add moderators to 12 fpe 510 carbines to make them quiet. IMO it would be easier to get a shroudless gun and just add a good moderator if you want it quiet.
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: marauder23 on July 07, 2012, 07:02:13 PM
I have the huntsman and its airstream does help tame it a bit.

How is accuracy at 50 yards? Shot count 25-27 w/ .22?
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: grumpy on July 07, 2012, 09:23:44 PM
Accuracy is excellent. Easy to shoot 1/2" groups at 50 yards. I get about 28 shots  before poi drops, but thats because I have the Classic model, with the shorter air tube. Get the XL with the larger air chamber and you can get several more shots.

By the way, if you do get a huntsman, go to Jim at Precision air gun and supply. He is excellent to deal with !




I have the huntsman and its airstream does help tame it a bit.

How is accuracy at 50 yards? Shot count 25-27 w/ .22?
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: marauder23 on July 08, 2012, 11:42:28 AM
Thanks. I wonder if Jim changes out the shrouds if requested (I see they are semi-permanently glued but I am looking for real quiet and carbine)? Why go shorter tube (I see a lot of folks pick the shorter tube)?
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: marauder23 on July 08, 2012, 01:08:22 PM
I kind of like the thumbhole AA 510 Carbine looks. I guess I could have one of NCs LDCs added. VarmintAir seems to like this gun a lot.

http://varmintair.typepad.com/varmintairs_blog/aa-510crbsl-22/ (http://varmintair.typepad.com/varmintairs_blog/aa-510crbsl-22/)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/tbln930/Air-Arms-S510-Carbine-Right-Walnut-Thumb_S510C22SX30RWH_rifle_lg.jpg)
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: grumpy on July 08, 2012, 01:16:36 PM
Jim install a Huggett shroud on my .25 cal Huntsman. It tamed it quite a bit.
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: marauder23 on July 08, 2012, 01:27:25 PM
I have a Huggett on my .25 50 fpe Air Ranger and it is quiet enough for back yard duty. Now I am really down to the Huntsman vs 510 and both seem to be of similar very high standards as expected. The 510 seems to weigh a bit less and offers the thumbhole stock. It also has adjustable power.
Title: I just got my new Air Arms S510 now and my Daystate Huntsman Regal in 2 months.
Post by: drdonaldgrim on August 24, 2013, 12:22:42 PM
Will send articles as soon as my shoulder replacement heals. Had surgery on Monday the 19th. Don Grim USA
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: marauder23 on August 24, 2013, 12:27:39 PM
Huh? Did you mean to post that somewhere else?
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: 4nDone0331 on August 25, 2013, 01:08:11 AM
Marauder23, Im confused.  I thought that you already had a AAS510 Carbine with a thumbhole stock in .22 cal.  Are you just asking for more info on the Huntsman compared to a AAS510 Carbine from people that own both?
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: pyroboy33 on August 25, 2013, 01:18:40 AM
Love my regular length AA S510: very quiet, stupid accurate, great bluing and finish, sweet and easily adjustable trigger, and the adjustable power that is very handy at times. Whats not to like it's simple, reliable, effective, and looks great while doing it. Cheers  ;)
                                                       Caleb C.
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: marauder23 on August 25, 2013, 02:00:04 AM
This is too funny. This thread is over a year old (July 2012) when I was deciding on my AA S510C. Some Newbie got on here with a post and I was responding to him that he posted on the wrong thread with something that didn't make any sense. I still have and love my AA S510C! I am looking for a 30 cal bullpup though for my next purchase at the moment. It will be the FX Bobcat, Cricket 30 or Matador 30. They are just coming out (in 2013 lol).

Marauder23, Im confused.  I thought that you already had a AAS510 Carbine with a thumbhole stock in .22 cal.  Are you just asking for more info on the Huntsman compared to a AAS510 Carbine from people that own both?
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: pyroboy33 on August 25, 2013, 02:25:21 AM
This is too funny. This thread is over a year old (July 2012) when I was deciding on my AA S510C. Some Newbie got on here with a post and I was responding to him that he posted on the wrong thread with something that didn't make any sense. I still have and love my AA S510C! I am looking for a 30 cal bullpup though for my next purchase at the moment. It will be the FX Bobcat, Cricket 30 or Matador 30. They are just coming out (in 2013 lol).

Marauder23, Im confused.  I thought that you already had a AAS510 Carbine with a thumbhole stock in .22 cal.  Are you just asking for more info on the Huntsman compared to a AAS510 Carbine from people that own both?

woops  ::) LOL
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: 4nDone0331 on August 25, 2013, 02:15:43 PM
lol, I just saw how old the thread was before I read your post Marauder23 :D
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: drdonaldgrim on August 26, 2013, 12:06:48 AM
I just got my new Air Arms S510 in walnut stock. What a beautiful rifle. My new Huntsman Regal comes in 2 months to USA. Since I will have both guns with same Hawke scopes. Will do great comparision. Thanks to UK for such great air rifles. Don Grim USA Austin, Texas
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: k-man on August 26, 2013, 07:46:41 PM
Hi marauder23, ive owned my huntsman xl .22 for over ayear now. Its extremely accurate ,sub .5 inch groups at 50 yards & .8 inch at 75 yards. Beautiful gun and great for taking small game. I would not consider it backyard friendly though if you live in a subdiv. She has a pop! U can get hugget system for it but thats around $300 or so. I have no experience with air arms. Hope this helps.  K-man
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on December 23, 2014, 02:38:31 PM
Ok late to the party but at this point I think it has relevance. Bought a Daystate Huntsman Regal XL .25 a couple of months ago and 3 weeks ago lucked into an AA S510 .25 and have been able to do a side by side comparison  Fit ,finish and accuracy are very comparable as is price 1 major difference is power out of the box 31 fpe for the AA and 41 fpe for the Daystate The day state was bought new and as far as I know I am owner #3 for the Air Arms and I don't know what owner #1 did to the Air Arms before it was sold. After some surfing the web the S510 is performing to factory specs  . I used Air Arms 25.3 gr Diabolo pellets in both tests so it is a fair evaluation for these results
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: LDP on December 23, 2014, 09:50:11 PM
I guess nobody reads the other posts and just jumps into the topic lol. The guy who started this thread did so over a year ago and has already made this decision :P
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: wilsonj1018 on December 23, 2014, 09:54:41 PM
(http://i58.tinypic.com/rw8o02.jpg)
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: marauder23 on December 23, 2014, 10:10:22 PM
I love it. Not to mention the very first question I asked now several years ago was:

"Anyone compared these two carbines closely in .22?"

And not .25 so the poster completely missed the boat.
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on December 23, 2014, 10:47:59 PM
 ;D Nope just praising the both rifles one just slightly more powerful than the other in stock form and I realized the boat sailed a long time ago but others will ask the question again rest assured . Merry Christmas to all ;) ;D
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: PaulFWI on January 21, 2015, 10:24:33 PM
Ok late to the party but at this point I think it has relevance. Bought a Daystate Huntsman Regal XL .25 a couple of months ago and 3 weeks ago lucked into an AA S510 .25 and have been able to do a side by side comparison  Fit ,finish and accuracy are very comparable as is price 1 major difference is power out of the box 31 fpe for the AA and 41 fpe for the Daystate The day state was bought new and as far as I know I am owner #3 for the Air Arms and I don't know what owner #1 did to the Air Arms before it was sold. After some surfing the web the S510 is performing to factory specs  . I used Air Arms 25.3 gr Diabolo pellets in both tests so it is a fair evaluation for these results

And now I own Don's .25 s510. :)  I've only been able to shoot it in the basement at 10 meters so far but it shoots one-hole groups for 10 shots - I mean you can't tell if it's one shot or 10.

I like the rifle so much I just ordered a new a500 in .22.  .22 is my favored caliber and I like the simplicity of no-mag.

The handling & balance of the Air Arms s500/s510 are really superb - better than my FX and better even than the BSA that I love so much for that quality.

I don't know why I keep buying these air rifles as I never seem to find the time to shoot them, but hopefully that will change some day.
Title: Re: Daystate Huntsman XL vs Air Arms S510 Xtra FAC PCP Carbine
Post by: PaulFWI on January 21, 2015, 10:25:48 PM
Oh - I've not yet had a Daystate.  The Regal/Huntsman is definitely tempting.