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Title: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: redtank on August 14, 2010, 02:54:10 PM
I'm still having trouble finding the "right" scope for my springers, something that will work well from 10 to 50 yards and is easy on the wallet. I don't have any magnum guns, just medium powered ones; what brands and models are the most popular?

Cris
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on August 14, 2010, 03:04:56 PM
the 4-16 centerpoint is 69... a little high, but they last well!
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: targetdriver on August 14, 2010, 03:11:30 PM
Depends on what your budget is of course.... I just bought 2 Leapers 5th Gen 4-16x50AO Scopes with Illuminated Red/Green Mil-Dot Reticle, Zero Lock/Reset turrents from P.A. for $81 ea. They focus down to 10 meters nicely, which is what I shoot most of the time, but have the magnification for the long shot too. Mine are very clear on the 16 power, and hold the same POI.

And the Centerpoints @ Wally World are nice budget options too.

Mike
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: DMikeM on August 14, 2010, 04:46:21 PM
Depends on what your budget is of course.... I just bought 2 Leapers 5th Gen 4-16x50AO Scopes with Illuminated Red/Green Mil-Dot Reticle, Zero Lock/Reset turrents from P.A. for $81 ea. They focus down to 10 meters nicely, which is what I shoot most of the time, but have the magnification for the long shot too. Mine are very clear on the 16 power, and hold the same POI.

And the Centerpoints @ Wally World are nice budget options too.

Mike

I have this scope on my B40, works as it should.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Nathan on August 14, 2010, 04:47:04 PM
Natchezz has the BSA 3X12X44 AO TT for $45. Mine has held up for many years on different spring rifles. Not great lenses, but that's a pretty good price.
http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=OSAR312X44&lsrc=NZ&src=BE555 (http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=OSAR312X44&lsrc=NZ&src=BE555)

Nathan
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: RedFeather on August 14, 2010, 05:23:41 PM
Something like the old Leapers BugBusters.  I guess the compact Centrepoints are the same thing these days.

The WalMart 4X16 is a good buy but does tend to be long and heavy, plus I have seen they don't hold up that well on magnum springers.  (When you go up in weight, the recoil becomes harsher on the scopes, so you need to go up in $$$ to get the extra build quality.)
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Onebaddj on August 14, 2010, 06:39:25 PM
The tactedge 4x40 is a great scope for the money.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Daysailer on August 14, 2010, 11:50:17 PM
Maybe not "bargin priced", but clearly not High priced...

I really like the Hawke 2-7 x 32 AO on my HW30S, clear, bright, plenty of eye relief, and tough.

Focus ring marked to 15 feet, but some travel beyond that.  At 10' still in focus.

The reticles and mil dots are not a large as some online sites show.
I use mine mostly at 10 meters, set to 2.5 magnification.  
Even out to 30 yards that magnification works for my paper punching and plinking.
The 7 power is plenty for 50 yards, .... unless you need to read the Lords Prayer on a grain of rice...

The price is not 'bargin basement', but quality like this scope is never found in the basement.
ds
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: MichaelM on August 15, 2010, 12:18:04 AM
the 4-16 centerpoint is 69... a little high, but they last well!

this here.... and if it DOES break just bring it back to wally worlds..... easy peasy returns and no shiiping!!!! I love mine.....
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: FiveHole on August 15, 2010, 01:10:43 AM
If you are on a budget, I would consider the BSA 2-7 x 32 AO scope. . I've used mine on low and medium powered springers and haven't had one break.....yet. Glass is acceptable for its price range and both of mine have always held zero. I usually shoot in the 20 - 30 yd. range, although I've used it just fine in the 10yd range too.

I ordered Mine from Natchez Shooter's Supply. They are on sale now. Total cost with shipping was $51 and some change. It only took two days to receive.

Here is the link.   

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=OSAR27X32&src=sim (http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=OSAR27X32&src=sim)
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: RHINOTEX on August 15, 2010, 10:12:39 AM
ON WHICH GUNS HAVE YOU USED THE BSA 2-7 x 32 AO scope ?

I HAVE THE TITAN .22 FROM WALMART/CROSMAN.
WOULD YOU USE THE BSA 2-7 x 32 AO scope ON IT?
THANKS FOR THE INFO...BOB
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Fisherdude on August 15, 2010, 07:09:36 PM
The best values in airgun rated scopes are at Natchez Shooter Supply (natchezss.com).  Get any of the 4 models of BSA airgun scopes.  They start at about $30 for a 4X and go up to about $65 for a 3-12X50.  They are adjustable objective scopes and the two I have are still going strong after 2 years of springer use. The glass is good for the money spent.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Davee1 on August 15, 2010, 11:31:47 PM
I realize that these two have already been mentioned, but I thought I would throw in my two cents.

If you want a mildot reticule, then the Leapers 6-24x50AO is a great deal.  The ones I have, have been tested with thousands of rounds in my Diana 350Ms, WFH, and some of my other springers...and they have never failed yet.

The BSA 3-12x44AO is another great deal.  I've tested them also on many of my springers, including the ones mentioned above.  I've never had a bad one.  They dont have the mildot reticule though.   
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: FXUD on August 16, 2010, 02:17:36 AM
Look at the Tasco Golden Antler 3-9x32 AO Riflescope, Sale Price  $33.99 With free shipping at
http://www.opticsale.com/tasco-golden-antler-3-9x32-airgun-scope-ao-1000-prd1.html (http://www.opticsale.com/tasco-golden-antler-3-9x32-airgun-scope-ao-1000-prd1.html)
I have one of these on my RWS Diana 34 and have been well pleased with it. 
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: bobbyjim on August 16, 2010, 08:46:12 AM
I 2nd the Tasco Golden Antler 3-9x32 AO Riflescope. I have have one on a Crosman Storm XT and you can't beat it for the price.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Atchman2 on August 16, 2010, 10:12:39 AM
I have a Tasco Golden Antler on my desk right now.  It is going back for repair. ;)  Nothing to do with the scope breaking but the top turret seems like it is stripped. 
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: redtank on August 18, 2010, 10:24:37 PM
Wow, thanks for all the replies! Lots to choose from, and I have to by 3 scopes to replace some poor ones I received in the past.

Cris
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: tpw on August 18, 2010, 10:49:41 PM
leapers 3x9x32AO. 35 shipped at opticsplanet.com. and they have alot more diifferent types and anythng over 30 bucks ships free ups. 35 is budget priced to me, 70 isnt.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: pindog2000 on August 19, 2010, 12:58:46 AM
Bsa scopes at natcheszz ,leapers scope at pyramidair.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: tpw on August 19, 2010, 01:15:22 AM
why would you get a leapers,bsa,barska, ect at PA when you can get the same thing at the same price and not pay for shipping?
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Davee1 on August 19, 2010, 03:10:36 AM
I think that the Golden Antler scopes have good clear optics, but I had 2 installed, and took them off because the objective was too small for my preference at 32mm, and I like more magnification.
I still think that as far as bargain prices go, the BSA 3-12x44mmAO airgun rated scope is just a fantastic deal.  The optics are great, and the price has actually come down by 10 bucks instead of going up as usual.  The BSA has held steady at 45 bucks at NatchezSS since Spring 2010.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: tpw on August 19, 2010, 06:36:11 AM
tasco and bsa are nice but lack the mil-dot that the the $35 leapers does. here is the leapers link to optics planet and see for yourself who has the better deal. you can type in any make you want but i dont think they carry hawke yet.
http://www.opticsplanet.com/s/leapers/cat~21 (http://www.opticsplanet.com/s/leapers/cat~21)
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: tpw on August 19, 2010, 06:42:12 AM
If you are on a budget, I would consider the BSA 2-7 x 32 AO scope. . I've used mine on low and medium powered springers and haven't had one break.....yet. Glass is acceptable for its price range and both of mine have always held zero. I usually shoot in the 20 - 30 yd. range, although I've used it just fine in the 10yd range too.

I ordered Mine from Natchez Shooter's Supply. They are on sale now. Total cost with shipping was $51 and some change. It only took two days to receive.

Here is the link.   

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=OSAR27X32&src=sim (http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=OSAR27X32&src=sim)

does iit have mil-dot?
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: tpw on August 19, 2010, 06:50:01 AM
Look at the Tasco Golden Antler 3-9x32 AO Riflescope, Sale Price  $33.99 With free shipping at
http://www.opticsale.com/tasco-golden-antler-3-9x32-airgun-scope-ao-1000-prd1.html (http://www.opticsale.com/tasco-golden-antler-3-9x32-airgun-scope-ao-1000-prd1.html)
I have one of these on my RWS Diana 34 and have been well pleased with it. 


that is a great deal. have you bought from them before? i had the tasco awhile back but i got rid of it but i liked it. im looking for a scope for a gamo 68 which only does 450fps w/hobby so mildots wont be needed. thanks for the length
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: jjpeters4 on January 16, 2011, 04:22:21 PM
A leapers golden image, 4x32, with mill-dot reticle @ p.a. for around $30, thats whats goin on my 1377 build. My brother has a bug buster on his and the crosshairs are wayyyyy too thick for my likeings.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: wilded on January 16, 2011, 04:55:17 PM
Tasco 2.5-10 Varmint AO Mil-dot $59.99 Free Shipping

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&Ntt=Tasco+Varmint+2.5-10&gclid=CPO7t-XNv6YCFcXD7QodKnubFw&A=endecaSearch&InitialSearch=yes&Q=&N=0 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&Ntt=Tasco+Varmint+2.5-10&gclid=CPO7t-XNv6YCFcXD7QodKnubFw&A=endecaSearch&InitialSearch=yes&Q=&N=0)
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: pindog2000 on January 17, 2011, 12:55:21 PM
Bsa airgun rated scopes,simmons scopes(for pcp and co2)has long eye relief,bushnell sportsman airgun rated scopes (very good glass)i have 3,nikko stirling mount master scope(good glass)all these are found on .natchessz.com
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: tpw on January 17, 2011, 02:19:51 PM
i prefer the leapers overall
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: pindog2000 on January 17, 2011, 02:23:03 PM
Im a bushnell and nikko stirling man lol but leapers are no slouch ,leapers were my prefrence scopes when i just got into airgunning.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: tpw on January 17, 2011, 02:43:15 PM
for the price,you cant beat leapers
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: pindog2000 on January 17, 2011, 02:56:15 PM
True but its all on what the eyes like lol.btw how you like your sun optics scope?
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: tpw on January 17, 2011, 04:07:31 PM
i like it. here is a short review
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,6793.0.html (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,6793.0.html)
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: GrizzlyMan on January 18, 2011, 09:08:57 PM
why would you get a leapers,bsa,barska, ect at PA when you can get the same thing at the same price and not pay for shipping?

Scopes are like Digital SLR camera lenses, glass is glass no matter what. One can change the air rifle, the same way one upgrades with digital cameras.

There are many things to consider, distortion, aberration, flare, sharpness, contrast etc. One can upgrade a rifle and make it the same or better than a high end small game air rifle, but scopes its highly recommended to spend the cash. Its similar to having a nice Nikon and then buy a Vivitar zoom lens to it.


Bushnell Banner scopes are pretty good. The 2-7x36 for $75.00.
 
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: bluzjamer on January 27, 2011, 01:58:10 AM
Here's a Barska with free shipping for $59.   http://www.opticsbestbuy.com/Barska-Airgun-3-12x40-Riflescope-AC10008.html (http://www.opticsbestbuy.com/Barska-Airgun-3-12x40-Riflescope-AC10008.html)    These are recoil proof and air gun rated.
One of the scope reviews rated this scope very high, above the BSA. I bought several BSA's and had I known this I think I would have bought this one.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Kirk B on March 02, 2011, 09:35:21 PM
The Golden Antler from Opticsale is definately not available anymore. I called today to check. Too bad, that was an awesome price.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Kirk B on March 08, 2011, 08:38:13 PM
Here's a Barska with free shipping for $59.
I was poking around and Amazon has these for $46.93 and free shipping. Has anyone here used one?

Edit: Did a quick search on here and it seems the Barskas aren't getting good reviews (although they did on Amazon). I think you guys have sold me on a Leapers 3-9X32 AO for my Blackhawk if my peep sight idea doesn't work out.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Deane on July 24, 2011, 02:03:00 AM
Just keep in mind if you're replacing glass that came with the rifle that they are usually in the 33mm range. If you put a 50mm on, you might have to replace the mounts with higher ones so the bell doesn't hit your barrel. I had to remove the rear sight from my Gamo Whisper .177 when I changed out my 3-9X33 for a 4-16X40AO. Just another consideration.

By the way Kirk, that avatar is very familiar. I saw a lot of them when I was a "Phantom Fixer." Were you associated with them?
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: James Bond 007 on August 06, 2011, 01:36:44 PM
I think you will find that Leapers fits your criteria very nicely. I have the 4x32 w/ AO and the 3-9x40 illuminated mil-dot. Love them both.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: DawnZero on August 07, 2011, 05:29:42 PM
I got a NcStar Mark III Tactical Scope 3-9x42 Rubber Compact, Blue illuminated milidot, Sunshade, Built in scope laser, and quick release for only $82 on amazon. I belive the Mark III series is rated to withstand airgun recoil.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Will403536 on September 11, 2011, 01:03:30 AM
Scope noob here, looking for something decent for an $80 Phantom, can't justify >$30.

What do you think of these?

1. Link says 5th Gen Bug Buster but the product page has no mention of that, prly a site glitch:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/leapers-5th-gen-classic-bug-buster-ts-4x32mm-full-size-mil-dot-compact-riflescope-wit.html (http://www.opticsplanet.net/leapers-5th-gen-classic-bug-buster-ts-4x32mm-full-size-mil-dot-compact-riflescope-wit.html)
Is this actually suitable for a springer? It says "airgun" in the description, but I think that refers to the 11mm dovetail the rings are made for, correct?

2. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BONFGI/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_3?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B003M4XS2I&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=07P6KZ0TM9SN1S41G5NN (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BONFGI/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_3?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B003M4XS2I&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=07P6KZ0TM9SN1S41G5NN)
UTG 4x32
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: jwsoup on September 11, 2011, 01:26:09 AM
Ive got a stormxt 1000fps spring and I have used a cenert point 3-9x40 and an 4 x 40 gamo (the varmit hunter) they both work well. I actually prefer the gamo fixed 4 power its clear bright and easy to use out to fifty yards 4 power is plenty. the most crucail thing to worry about on springers is the mounts. i went through 3 sets before I found the ones that would hold against the reverse kick.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Bullit on September 11, 2011, 12:38:20 PM
leapers 3x9x32AO. 35 shipped at opticsplanet.com. and they have alot more diifferent types and anythng over 30 bucks ships free ups. 35 is budget priced to me, 70 isnt.
That's a good all-around scope...And YES, $35.00 is definitely a low price. And Airgun Tough.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: grumpy on September 11, 2011, 12:44:12 PM
leapers 3x9x32AO. 35 shipped at opticsplanet.com. and they have alot more diifferent types and anythng over 30 bucks ships free ups. 35 is budget priced to me, 70 isnt.
That's a good all-around scope...And YES, $35.00 is definitely a low price. And Airgun Tough.

I agree, the Leapers 3x9 is a great, strong scope. Plus I dig its light weight.

Dave
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Will403536 on October 01, 2011, 10:13:24 PM
So I just ordered this from Amazon for my Phantom

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BONFGI/ (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BONFGI/)

"UTG 4x32 TS Full-size Mildot Scope"

A couple reviews specifically mentioned mounting it on a Phantom with good results, but do any of yall have experience with this scope?
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: AirScopes on October 01, 2011, 10:38:38 PM
Not trying to be a jerk, but you are replacing budget scopes, no doubt... You'll end up following the same thing when the new budget scopes dump. That is NOT to say that you can't do well with inexpensive choices, but I would go a little higher to get something reliable. The low-price model that I recommend is one that I do not even sell:

Bushnell Banner 6-18x50. That is an airgun rated Bushy, and it has some nice presence for the money. You can find them for $89 and $99 if you look around, and the MFSRP is around $180.

Be happy with your scope... don't just settle.

Richard
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Bullit on October 02, 2011, 01:38:43 PM
I'm still having trouble finding the "right" scope for my springers, something that will work well from 10 to 50 yards and is easy on the wallet. I don't have any magnum guns, just medium powered ones; what brands and models are the most popular?

Cris
Original Post.

Don't know what you mean by "budget" pricing.  But do understand your AG power levels & range.
A fixed power scope, in higher magnification might be your ticket. Less to go wrong.
As many posted, the Leapers UTG or 5th Generation scopes are magnum rated.  I will say I use a 3-9x42mm which isn't real big, and is quite enough for me at 50+ yards.  I also have a fixed 6x32mm that does just fine, and I am used to it...which is most important.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: mtbdrew on January 12, 2012, 05:00:35 PM
Hello,

New member to the forum though I've been reading the posts for awhile now after rediscovering my Gamo Hunter 220. I've had this old springer for over 15 years and have recently got back into shooting pellet guns with my two boys. Since owning this I've attempted to put several different scopes on with no success. Have to admit that originally I had no concept of the special recoil/vibration that springer guns have and have thus destroyed some fairly nice optics with it. Have tried Bushnell, Simons, BSA in the past admittedly before they had air rifle rated scopes. After reading many posts here and some good articles about the special characteristics of springer guns I tried several Leaper scopes:
SCP432FW
SCP-632MD1
SCP432ML1W
SCP-U4164AORGW

Unfortunately none of these scopes have stood up to this rifle. The middle two lasted the longest with the 432 taking around 200 shots. The last one which was the most expensive only lasted ten rounds.
Anyway to the point, has anyone successfully scoped one of the older Gamo Hunter 220 air rifles and if so what scope did you use?
As a side note, I have tuned this gun and added GRT-III trigger. Still using the original spring and can regular hit cans out to 40 yards but my eyes are not what they use to be and a scope would make shooting a lot more enjoyable.

Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: JimL911 on January 12, 2012, 05:45:52 PM
Try http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/Hawke/Airmax.htm (http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/Hawke/Airmax.htm)
If they are out look for the 3-9X40 Airmax.
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: mtbdrew on January 12, 2012, 08:20:36 PM
Thanks for the suggestion but I'm hoping to find one with MIL dots.

BR
Andrew
Title: Re: What's the best buget priced scope for a springer?
Post by: Bullit on June 25, 2012, 02:56:43 PM
With the number of scopes from Leapers you've gone thru, I would suggest that it's your mounting system that is the fault.   You've not mentioned anything about it's consideration, so I assume you are using rings only.
Use a quality, 1 piece mount, and I think you'll do better.