All that being said I don't feel any of my rifles are overpriced for what they are. My BSA R10 MK II and Warp are the most expensive rifles that I presently own and shoot then the S510. Then there is the glass is a 50 dollar scope good enough or do you need the $3,000 6x24x50 Hubble it all goes back to what you are comfortable spending to achieve a certain level of expected performance from your equipment.
Quote from: sfttailrdr46 on April 30, 2017, 12:39:25 AM All that being said I don't feel any of my rifles are overpriced for what they are. My BSA R10 MK II and Warp are the most expensive rifles that I presently own and shoot then the S510. Then there is the glass is a 50 dollar scope good enough or do you need the $3,000 6x24x50 Hubble it all goes back to what you are comfortable spending to achieve a certain level of expected performance from your equipment. thanks for the reply Don, but it really didn't answer my question.What I want to know is your BSA MkII and your Warp really so accurate and all around great airgun that they are worth what you paid for them?Did you have to try multiple weights and brands of pellets in both those rifles to get the accuracy you desired?I mean you paid a great deal for them and in return you "expected" them to be worth that amount.I just want to know are they worth it?Now don't get me wrong, I don't mean to disrespect you or any of your airguns.And yes I understand that if you shell out big bucks for a certain airgun that you expect it to be worth your hard earned cash.Are fit, finish, bluing, beautiful wood stocks really giving you an airgun that will out shoot a much lower priced, albeit a little rougher around the edges airgun?I guess the question that puzzles me most would be, should I save up my money for an expensive beautiful airgun because its suppose to perform better for me than a cheaper airgun?Which I can't answer because I've never owned a expensive one before so I can't tell? Or should I just keep tinkering and plugging along with the lower priced airguns?All the while, hoping I'll find my diamond in rough someday?ThanksRay
Quote from: ray1377 on April 30, 2017, 01:55:11 AMQuote from: sfttailrdr46 on April 30, 2017, 12:39:25 AM All that being said I don't feel any of my rifles are overpriced for what they are. My BSA R10 MK II and Warp are the most expensive rifles that I presently own and shoot then the S510. Then there is the glass is a 50 dollar scope good enough or do you need the $3,000 6x24x50 Hubble it all goes back to what you are comfortable spending to achieve a certain level of expected performance from your equipment. thanks for the reply Don, but it really didn't answer my question.What I want to know is your BSA MkII and your Warp really so accurate and all around great airgun that they are worth what you paid for them?Did you have to try multiple weights and brands of pellets in both those rifles to get the accuracy you desired?I mean you paid a great deal for them and in return you "expected" them to be worth that amount.I just want to know are they worth it?Now don't get me wrong, I don't mean to disrespect you or any of your airguns.And yes I understand that if you shell out big bucks for a certain airgun that you expect it to be worth your hard earned cash.Are fit, finish, bluing, beautiful wood stocks really giving you an airgun that will out shoot a much lower priced, albeit a little rougher around the edges airgun?I guess the question that puzzles me most would be, should I save up my money for an expensive beautiful airgun because its suppose to perform better for me than a cheaper airgun?Which I can't answer because I've never owned a expensive one before so I can't tell? Or should I just keep tinkering and plugging along with the lower priced airguns?All the while, hoping I'll find my diamond in rough someday?ThanksRayOk , the answer is yes they are worth the money spent in the acquisition of my high end PCP and springer air guns. To me fit & finish are important as are eye appeal but most important is accuracy second is shot count whether it is 40 + accurate shots from the regulated BSA R10 or the smooth cocking, consistent accuracy & simplicity of function of my springers. I also recognise that rifles that require TLC to satisfy my personal needs allow me to tinker with them and make them better without the concern of destroying it and turning it into spare parts. At the end of the day they are still just useable & inexpensive and not necessarily as consistently accurate as the more expensive rifles. What needs to be remembered is that all that tinkering and modification adds to the original cost of the lower end rifles.
All this begs a certain question be asked by someone who doesn't own one.Y'all be truthful now.But does a $1500 airgun shoot 5 times better than a $300 airgun?I mean I might as well ask, cause Lord knows I'll never own one, and I'm just curious.So tell me, does spending very large amounts of money get you the most accurate, quietest, highest shot count, beautiful airgun?I know some have bluing that can't compare to even some powder burners. Deep and polished are the words I've heard used.And then there are those high dollar guns with a burled walnut stock or some other foreign exotic wood that is almost just to pretty to shoot.Do all of these "high price" airguns come right out of the box putting pellet on pellet at 50 yards and beyond?Or do even these guns require a labor intensive multi brand and weight pellet testing routine to find one that is "perfect"?Is the person rewarded for his expensive purchase with a airgun that shoots each brand and every style of pellet without fuss?I'm not looking for a airgun I can brag about cause its "beautiful". I want an airgun that meets just a few simple requirements listed below.And they are not in any certain order.1-accurate2-quiet3-mult shot capability4-regulated5-high shot count6-capable of 1/4 to 1/2 inch groups at between 25 and 75 yards.7-doesn't cost a small fortune!:(Sounds like a lot to ask for doesn't it?Yeah I thought so to.Only problem I see is if you ask 10 different members this question, you'll likely get 10 different answers.And I fully expect that.It's just that it would be nice if just picking that "one" airgun would be easy as just fulfilling my list of requirements without all the fuss.I mean think how great it would be if out of those 10 members at least 8 or 9 of them would recommend the same airgun!!!! Thanks RayP.S. And please, please, please, nobody say that a Marauder meets all my requirements
I see the comment a lot about how if you tinker and modify a low end gun that you could've had a more expensive model.But that's assuming quite a bit.And I'll be darned if 90% of the German springer owners on here don't go and spend more modifying there guns that they're not satisfied with than anybody who ever bought a cheap springer.And a good lot of them seem to have difficulties with scopes, mounts, and barrels pointing at the ground.
Quote from: 39M on April 30, 2017, 06:09:04 PMI see the comment a lot about how if you tinker and modify a low end gun that you could've had a more expensive model.But that's assuming quite a bit.And I'll be darned if 90% of the German springer owners on here don't go and spend more modifying there guns that they're not satisfied with than anybody who ever bought a cheap springer.And a good lot of them seem to have difficulties with scopes, mounts, and barrels pointing at the ground.Part of shooting air guns for me is the tinkering and learning how to mod them. This is far less stressful with a lower cost rifle whether it is a springer or PCP