Just out of curiosity, why the Marmont as opposed to a LW barrel? Cost? Availability? Which would be more accurate? Just interested but paint balls at 40 yards sounds impressive to me though.
Quote from: Dbez1 on March 27, 2017, 11:34:13 PMJust out of curiosity, why the Marmont as opposed to a LW barrel? Cost? Availability? Which would be more accurate? Just interested but paint balls at 40 yards sounds impressive to me though.All the reading I did said the MMHF looked like the one to go with. It was drop in replacement and all the reviews I saw were positive. My results match those of many others with MMHF. I'm sure the LW barrels are good also I just never saw an easy place to order one for drop in replacement to factory barrel. Very happy with the performance of the MMHF barrel. It was accurate immediately after I installed it. I lube with FP10 as recommended and its good for 200 shots before cleaning.
For me the MMHF barrel is one I can count on. With no flyers every shot can be counted on. Just last week I made head shots on large birds in the 60 yard range two days in a row. Many other head shots on smaller birds in the 35 yard range. When I shoot multiple groups at 25 yards the pellets stack on top of each other.I don't have to use a barrel band o-ring anymore due to a thick 1/2" OD of rifle steel. The crown is cut by a pro airgunner that also tests and guarantees 1 MOA at 60 yards. The barrel is specifically made for an excellent pellet (JSB 18.1gn).I'm really nervous about buying another gun without it. The required frequent cleanings is not as bad as I read about.I do run my tunes within 2% or lower ES which also adds to the consistency. Shooting a full 30 to 40 shot string the POI stays near the same. I don't worry about which shot I'm on or the fill pressure just when my last mag runs out. I learned how much lube to use on the pellets and there is no need to lube the barrel beforehand. Too much lube works against you. I would not hesitate to order this barrel unless you want to shoot hard lead pellets like the H&N 21.14gn. Hard lead pellets will foul this tight barrel and will require frequent cleanings.
Quote from: triggertreat on March 28, 2017, 09:12:24 PMFor me the MMHF barrel is one I can count on. With no flyers every shot can be counted on. Just last week I made head shots on large birds in the 60 yard range two days in a row. Many other head shots on smaller birds in the 35 yard range. When I shoot multiple groups at 25 yards the pellets stack on top of each other.I don't have to use a barrel band o-ring anymore due to a thick 1/2" OD of rifle steel. The crown is cut by a pro airgunner that also tests and guarantees 1 MOA at 60 yards. The barrel is specifically made for an excellent pellet (JSB 18.1gn).I'm really nervous about buying another gun without it. The required frequent cleanings is not as bad as I read about.I do run my tunes within 2% or lower ES which also adds to the consistency. Shooting a full 30 to 40 shot string the POI stays near the same. I don't worry about which shot I'm on or the fill pressure just when my last mag runs out. I learned how much lube to use on the pellets and there is no need to lube the barrel beforehand. Too much lube works against you. I would not hesitate to order this barrel unless you want to shoot hard lead pellets like the H&N 21.14gn. Hard lead pellets will foul this tight barrel and will require frequent cleanings.Hey Keith. How often are you cleaning it and how are you doing it?
Quote from: TerryH on March 28, 2017, 11:38:28 PMQuote from: triggertreat on March 28, 2017, 09:12:24 PMFor me the MMHF barrel is one I can count on. With no flyers every shot can be counted on. Just last week I made head shots on large birds in the 60 yard range two days in a row. Many other head shots on smaller birds in the 35 yard range. When I shoot multiple groups at 25 yards the pellets stack on top of each other.I don't have to use a barrel band o-ring anymore due to a thick 1/2" OD of rifle steel. The crown is cut by a pro airgunner that also tests and guarantees 1 MOA at 60 yards. The barrel is specifically made for an excellent pellet (JSB 18.1gn).I'm really nervous about buying another gun without it. The required frequent cleanings is not as bad as I read about.I do run my tunes within 2% or lower ES which also adds to the consistency. Shooting a full 30 to 40 shot string the POI stays near the same. I don't worry about which shot I'm on or the fill pressure just when my last mag runs out. I learned how much lube to use on the pellets and there is no need to lube the barrel beforehand. Too much lube works against you. I would not hesitate to order this barrel unless you want to shoot hard lead pellets like the H&N 21.14gn. Hard lead pellets will foul this tight barrel and will require frequent cleanings.Hey Keith. How often are you cleaning it and how are you doing it?I run a bore snake through it with the brass bristles removed every approximately 200 shots or so. Not because I'm having accuracy issues but is just my routine. I could wait until I'm having accuracy issues but don't because it's just easy to do. I only shoot soft lead pellets lubed with FP-10.
Just wanted to update so others can have this info just like I had from others. I now have my Marmot Militia barrel and have shot about 250 shots through it. This is now the gun I was hoping for. I can consistently shoot 1/2" to 5/8" groups at 35 yds. I do back the shroud off 1/4 turn as advised by others and it does help keep POI from day to day. The only problem is the Starlings no not to land here now. All their buddies are gone.