Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review



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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #120 on: March 09, 2017, 02:33:37 PM »
I like the way it looks. I like the way it shoots. I like the way it shoulders. I like just about everything about it and I'm happy. I don't see the need to try and compare it anymore. The whole purpose of this was to let people know what I thought and that's what I've done. You bought a bullboss and you let everyone know how much you enjoy it. I have a feeling you won't get many trying to compare it to no end with any other air rifle out there. There will always be a bigger or better something out there. You just have to be happy with what you have.

AllAmerican, have you taken it out to longer distances... Maybe past 50 yrds?
I apologize if this was already stated.  I scrolled past most of the side talk and may have missed it.
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #121 on: March 09, 2017, 02:46:56 PM »
I like the way it looks. I like the way it shoots. I like the way it shoulders. I like just about everything about it and I'm happy. I don't see the need to try and compare it anymore. The whole purpose of this was to let people know what I thought and that's what I've done. You bought a bullboss and you let everyone know how much you enjoy it. I have a feeling you won't get many trying to compare it to no end with any other air rifle out there. There will always be a bigger or better something out there. You just have to be happy with what you have.

AllAmerican, have you taken it out to longer distances... Maybe past 50 yrds?
I apologize if this was already stated.  I scrolled past most of the side talk and may have missed it.

No I haven't yet. I won't be going to my cabin this weekend so I should have time to do some shooting. If I do I'll post the results
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #122 on: March 13, 2017, 06:55:16 PM »
 After reading the forum, gleaning info, watching the you tube reviews, I talked with Travis at Wicked AND....
    I have a freshly modded Kral PB walnut .25 on the way.     8)
and I'm geaked!  I always liked the bull pup design.
 Mike, did you get a chance to shoot yours at any longer range? Any pellet recommendations?
And what scope set up did you go with? (I seemed to have missed that if you posted)
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #123 on: March 13, 2017, 07:02:07 PM »
While it may not be a Bullboss  lol
 I'm still pretty excited to get this and can't wait to get out and start shooting this thing. #firstbullpup #firstPCPfirst.25
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #124 on: March 13, 2017, 08:11:41 PM »

awesome, what did u have done?
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #125 on: March 14, 2017, 02:53:36 AM »
Porting valve , breech block, trigger work, baffles added. I'm expecting it's going to be pretty smooth and with a bit more power and quieter  than stock. Will post when it arrives and I have a chance to give it a work out.
 This is coming  right from Wicked air guns so I really have no basis for comparison to a stock Kral.
I'll have to get together with someone near by once the weather breaks so we can compare.  Allamerican if your interested shoot me a PM.
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #126 on: March 14, 2017, 07:59:02 AM »
Porting valve , breech block, trigger work, baffles added. I'm expecting it's going to be pretty smooth and with a bit more power and quieter  than stock. Will post when it arrives and I have a chance to give it a work out.
 This is coming  right from Wicked air guns so I really have no basis for comparison to a stock Kral.
I'll have to get together with someone near by once the weather breaks so we can compare.  Allamerican if your interested shoot me a PM.

You'll be happy with your new purchase. I haven't had a chance to get out past 25-30 yards due to the weather. It's either been too cold or windy to get some longer range shooting. It wouldn't show the true potential of the gun. Hopefully soon it will be nicer out so I can give it a go.
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #127 on: March 14, 2017, 05:44:14 PM »
Couldn't stand it anymore so I ordered a .25 PB Marine from PA last night before they were gone. Supposed to be here tomorrow. I'd have liked to order one that had been gone over by Travis but he went and sold 'em all. Hopefully I'll get a good one! :-\

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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #128 on: March 18, 2017, 06:05:56 PM »
You guys make jokes at my expense?
When, all I was doing was trying to facilitate a public discussion to compare bullpup options,
that would benefit everyone in the community?

Well, I'm laughing out loud too.
But, it's because you, your time, and your money are actually Beta testing the Kral PB and modifications for me.

Once you guys go through all the "growing pains" and R&D,
I'll pick up a Kral too......at a discounted price, that's perfected, thanks to your time and money.
So, thanks buddies. :)


Regardless,
looking forward to all the Kral PB research and development data being posted in this thread for my benefit,
along with everyone else.


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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #129 on: March 21, 2017, 12:15:21 AM »
I received my .25 cal Puncher Breaker synthetic a week ago. Slapped an inexpensive Hawke 2 x 9 AO on it with the highest rings I had on hand. Still sits too low for a good sighting picture, but was able to zero the scope in 5 shots at 10 yards. One hole group about the size of a dime. Moved it out to 30 yards. The group opened up to about 1.5 inches in 10 shots. A lot of the error was on me as I was shooting off my knee in a lawn chair LOL. But I shot it enough to know its not moving my pellet downrange as fast as I would like. The power adjuster is moved all the way to full, but I still feel like the gun should be able to give more. Having said that, I got (and Im not exaggerating) 70 shots before dipping into the yellow portion of the gage. Super efficient, but without the chrony, I'd just be guessing at what the fps is.

The Picatinny riser mount (3/4") is coming tomorrow, but I won't have time to shoot. Looks like Thursday before I can put thru the chrony and shoot from a proper bench rest. All in all I think its going to be a very nice hunting gun. I may send it to Travis to investigate the possibility of opening up the valving a bit. Using the adjustable power selector, I'd like the gun to shoot between 30 to 50 ft/lbs. Will talk to Travis about it after all the baseline data has been recorded.
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #130 on: March 21, 2017, 04:04:32 AM »
You guys make jokes at my expense?
When, all I was doing was trying to facilitate a public discussion to compare bullpup options,
that would benefit everyone in the community?

Well, I'm laughing out loud too.
But, it's because you, your time, and your money are actually Beta testing the Kral PB and modifications for me.

Once you guys go through all the "growing pains" and R&D,
I'll pick up a Kral too......at a discounted price, that's perfected, thanks to your time and money.
So, thanks buddies. :)


Regardless,
looking forward to all the Kral PB research and development data being posted in this thread for my benefit,
along with everyone else.

Evoshift. You just got banned at airgun nation. Mods please look into him. He threatened to use a different ip and username.

The Kral is a great gun. Travis is doing great work. Once i get my marauder  sorted out I'm getting a .25 from War. Thanks for the awesome updates!
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #131 on: March 21, 2017, 02:34:51 PM »
He got himself banned here too.
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #132 on: March 21, 2017, 02:48:35 PM »
He got himself banned here too.
Sorry to see this.  Dissenting opinions help temper expectations (though disruption kinda goes awry of the Forum rules).

I've been following this thread from the git-go.  While it may not have the power of other .25s, the potential is there, no doubt.  And when it comes to carrying a gun in the woods, this one is darn-close to the top of the list for me.  I think in due time the Puncher Breaker is going to get like the AT-44 and MRod: a standard by which other airguns are compared to whether or not it's in the same price range.

One thing I'll add: Turkish walnut is beautiful with the nickel finish.  Down the road I intend to get one.
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #133 on: March 21, 2017, 03:53:23 PM »
He got himself banned here too.
Sorry to see this.  Dissenting opinions help temper expectations (though disruption kinda goes awry of the Forum rules).

Dissenting opinions are welcome when they are part of a constructive debate and done respectfully. Constant trolling, thread hijacking, and personal attacks don't qualify as constructive....

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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #134 on: March 21, 2017, 04:21:21 PM »
dissenting opinion is debate, in an adult fashion .. Example
"Guys , Id like to really have a conversation about Xyz gun over yzd gun, i cannot understand why people like xyz"
Typical post I saw
" The kral is plain garbage , go to heck  , get a bullboss!"
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #135 on: March 21, 2017, 04:52:27 PM »
dissenting opinion is debate, in an adult fashion .. Example
"Guys , Id like to really have a conversation about Xyz gun over yzd gun, i cannot understand why people like xyz"
Typical post I saw
" The kral is plain garbage , go to heck  , get a bullboss!"

+1! Amen to that.

Rude, childish pm's weren't appreciated either!

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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #136 on: March 22, 2017, 11:17:44 PM »
Finally had a chance to shoot the .25 cal over the chrony today after installing the Picatinny rail mount. 3/4 inch was the perfect height for my high rings. It pops up to the shoulder and the scope is immediately at the proper eye relief and ready to go. I shot 60 shots (amazing how even the last 6 or 7 shots didn't vertically string. The graph below shows 50 decent shots at 15 yards. Hole on hole groups with no fliers. That will no doubt change as I walk the thing out to 50 yards of course. My Puncher Breaker is shooting at .25 cal 25.4 gn JSB an average of 727 fps, generating 29.87 fl-lbs. Not as much energy as I would like, but I have no desire to try to match the Condor SS in speed and power! 60 shots on one fill is just plain fun! But, it looks like I'm going to send the gun to WAR for a larger port and silence mod, after all. Not in a big hurry, and have to save up a few bucks first. In the meantime, I'll enjoy shooting the heck out of this thing. Oh one more thing, the link pin in the cocking arm backed out and milled a shallow slot in my aluminum receiver (darn it I knew I shouldn't have forced it to cycle!!). The pin was mis-machined and the screw threads didn't full engage the linkage. I filed down the pin shoulder a bit to better engage, and used a tiny drop of super glue in the thread area. Will purchase Loctite red and rework later. Always something with air guns. I've owned quite a few PCP and springers and I really like the Kral. Its not a $900 to $1400 bullpup,  but the Puncher Breaker is a lot of bang for the buck.
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #137 on: March 22, 2017, 11:55:49 PM »
Finally had a chance to shoot the .25 cal over the chrony today after installing the Picatinny rail mount. 3/4 inch was the perfect height for my high rings. It pops up to the shoulder and the scope is immediately at the proper eye relief and ready to go. I shot 60 shots (amazing how even the last 6 or 7 shots didn't vertically string. The graph below shows 50 decent shots at 15 yards. Hole on hole groups with no fliers. That will no doubt change as I walk the thing out to 50 yards of course. My Puncher Breaker is shooting at .25 cal 25.4 gn JSB an average of 727 fps, generating 29.87 fl-lbs. Not as much energy as I would like, but I have no desire to try to match the Condor SS in speed and power! 60 shots on one fill is just plain fun! But, it looks like I'm going to send the gun to WAR for a larger port and silence mod, after all. Not in a big hurry, and have to save up a few bucks first. In the meantime, I'll enjoy shooting the heck out of this thing. Oh one more thing, the link pin in the cocking arm backed out and milled a shallow slot in my aluminum receiver (darn it I knew I shouldn't have forced it to cycle!!). The pin was mis-machined and the screw threads didn't full engage the linkage. I filed down the pin shoulder a bit to better engage, and used a tiny drop of super glue in the thread area. Will purchase Loctite red and rework later. Always something with air guns. I've owned quite a few PCP and springers and I really like the Kral. Its not a $900 to $1400 bullpup,  but the Puncher Breaker is a lot of bang for the buck.

That sounds like the perfect recipe for a fun shooter right there.  It will make a great little hunter too.  It is just dang hard to beat those Krals on bang for the buck it seems.  If the Krals had been available a year or two ago, there's a good chance I'd have a Hatsan and a Kral, instead of two Hatsans.
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #138 on: April 12, 2017, 02:16:39 AM »
Finally had a chance to shoot the .25 cal over the chrony today after installing the Picatinny rail mount. 3/4 inch was the perfect height for my high rings. It pops up to the shoulder and the scope is immediately at the proper eye relief and ready to go. I shot 60 shots (amazing how even the last 6 or 7 shots didn't vertically string. The graph below shows 50 decent shots at 15 yards. Hole on hole groups with no fliers. That will no doubt change as I walk the thing out to 50 yards of course. My Puncher Breaker is shooting at .25 cal 25.4 gn JSB an average of 727 fps, generating 29.87 fl-lbs. Not as much energy as I would like, but I have no desire to try to match the Condor SS in speed and power! 60 shots on one fill is just plain fun! But, it looks like I'm going to send the gun to WAR for a larger port and silence mod, after all. Not in a big hurry, and have to save up a few bucks first. In the meantime, I'll enjoy shooting the heck out of this thing. Oh one more thing, the link pin in the cocking arm backed out and milled a shallow slot in my aluminum receiver (darn it I knew I shouldn't have forced it to cycle!!). The pin was mis-machined and the screw threads didn't full engage the linkage. I filed down the pin shoulder a bit to better engage, and used a tiny drop of super glue in the thread area. Will purchase Loctite red and rework later. Always something with air guns. I've owned quite a few PCP and springers and I really like the Kral. Its not a $900 to $1400 bullpup,  but the Puncher Breaker is a lot of bang for the buck.

I had 712 fps with crow mags 26.23 grains , waiting on my 19 grain pellets from hatsan to come , eager to see if I can get it up to anywhere close to 825 fps
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Re: Kral puncher breaker silent .25 review
« Reply #139 on: April 15, 2017, 01:28:56 AM »
   My .22 Kral BP loves the GTO 11.7 ammo. Has anyone tried the .25 GTO in the Kral BP?

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