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big a
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May 18, 2011, 02:52:30 PM »
I have been taking out some pest at the feed mill by my house,and the owner called me today and asked if I could come by.I stopped over and he showed me about 6 grackles and a bunch of sparrows.I told him the grackles are protected,but I could try to get the sparrows.He said he had been throwing things at them all morning trying to get them out and they would not go.He said these birds are costing him a lot of money everyday and wants them gone.I would like a few opinions on what I should do.He wants me to go back today at closing time.
Thanks.Big A
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Singleshooter
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May 18, 2011, 02:58:21 PM »
What do states regs say about the Grackles? I have seen several that outline certain instances of which this one, where they can be taken.
Get back there at closing time!
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RatRacer
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May 18, 2011, 03:42:24 PM »
Legal status: Grackles are protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. However, under this act, Grackles may be controlled without a federal permit when found "committing or about to commit depredations upon ornamental or shade trees, agricultural crops, livestock, or wildlife, or when concentrated in such numbers and manner to constitute a health hazard or other nuisance."
State and local laws should be consulted before any control measures are taken. Some cities are considered "bird sanctuaries" that provide protection to all species of birds.
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May 18, 2011, 08:00:44 PM »
Big A if its illegal in his area dont take the chance cause you being the shooter will get in trouble and he couldnt save you ...maybe he should use another alternative and find out from the law what other method is legal instead of you getting in a jam ..you never know whos looking and taking pictures and if they hear the ag anyone will want to know whats going on just to see grackles on the floor you just shot ..not a sight to see when nosey people are around ...be safe and in all honesty i wouldnt do it not worth my time in jail ..freedom is everthing Big A...be safe ..jorge
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May 18, 2011, 08:36:40 PM »
what you do is have him go to the healt department and say that these black brids are messing in the area of pet food. And they will let you get id of them. they dont wont PETA on there case..But i still would'nt shoot any of them yet.
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May 18, 2011, 08:39:24 PM »
Mess with the Bull.... your gunna get the horns.....
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big a
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May 18, 2011, 09:40:08 PM »
Thanks guys I will talk to him tomorrow and tell him to look into if he or I would be aloud being they are causing damage.The last thing I need is to loose my right to hunt and own my guns.
I will keep you posted.
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Re: What do you guys think?
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May 18, 2011, 10:33:09 PM »
Give your local game enforcement agency a call and make sure it's legal. Some states require a nuisance permit be issued, your game agent can give you the most accurate information. If it winds up that's it's illegal then I wouldn't kill those birds. If your state does in fact require a nuisance permit and if they are in fact causing legitimate economic damage then it should be a simple matter for the owner to apply for and get the required permit.
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May 18, 2011, 10:50:12 PM »
Jeff's got you headed in the right direction. Your local wildlife agency should be able to spell out what you can do and exactly what you can't. The only thing I would add is to get the name of the individual you speak to or who gives you permission to proceed. That way you will always have an ally in case you are ever questioned.
This really sounds like a legitimate case of depredation by a protected species that with the proper preparation can be eliminated both legally and pleasantly!
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big a
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May 19, 2011, 02:24:31 PM »
I talked to the owner of the feed mill and he has a nuisance permit to get rid of pest that are causing harm or damage to his products.That does NOT include protected animals or birds.He can only live trap them and let them go else where.So no grackles will be getting shot,but it does give me a green light for squirrels.I am glad I did not shoot any of those grackles,even though I probally would not have got caught,IF I did I would have been screwed.
Thanks again guys.Better safe than sorry or in jail.
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May 19, 2011, 02:55:18 PM »
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