I'm currently shooting a Disco, which I love, but I keep looking at a .25 M-rod down the road. I figured I'd go that route because dealing with Crosman is so darn easy. Parts are cheap and easy to get. My plan was to eventually grab a refurbished M-rod because of price, but they're hard to come by. I just looked at a website, (Airgun Pro Shop I think.), that has a ton of refurbed Hatsan PCP's at good prices. I know there are a lot of folks here shooting Hatsans. Are they as easy to obtain parts for, maintain, etc., as the M-Rods, or is there a reason there are so many refurbished Hatsans compared to M-rods?
this topic has been talked about extensively. you might want to do a search. You are going to find that there are too bands and both think once is better than the other. If you like to tinker and work on your guns, get an mrod hands down. Lots of mods and possibilities and you will get a great trigger that can be adjusted to 4-5 ounce ( this is huge for me). I think of the hatsan as more of a hunting gun more so than a bench gun. That does not mean that there are many out there that are very accurate. You get more power from the hatsan stock but, in my opinion, that is not the best thing. All my guns are set to 880fps with the best shooting pellet. Anything over 920fps to it is a waste of air and loss of efficiency. If you don't want to tinker, Skip both guns and save for something better. It will be well worth it. As I said before, Search and read up. Some of the debates are quiet amusing.Daniel
If want a comparison. Take my disco .22. It will out shoot both Guns. .127 to .25 groups at 40 yards. Ans can shoot over 40 fpe. At 31 fpe I get 65 plus shots. But is highligh modified. I'm not going to get into comparing the hAtsan and the mrod. Is just not worth my energy. But I will say that my mrod 25 will should 110fpe. Try that with a hAtsan.
All I have to say it is personal preference and how the gun fills to the person. I can say this is better than another just because that my opinion. I personally find Hassans heavy and lack quality. Not saying that mrod are better in those two areas. I pick a Morod because I can modify it how I want to. I love making adjustments to get the most out it. As I said before. The person does not like to work on guns they should skip both and get a higher end gun. Like an air arms. At the end the best thing is to try them and see what fits best. This will also improve accuracy significantly. If you give a choice between modding a disco, mrod or hatsan. I pick the disco. Some might say I'm crazy but discos have huge potential.
......... or is there a reason there are so many refurbished Hatsans compared to M-rods?
Wow! Thanks for all the responses guys!I should be a bit more clear. From what I've read online, both are great guns, and pretty much come down to personal preference in terms of features, feel, etc. What I'm really looking to learn is how tough it would be to repair or find parts for the Hatsan compared to the Benji. Honestly, I hadn't even considered a Hatsan until I saw how many regurb's are out there. In terms of my needs, right now the Disco is about perfect. Accurate, easy to work on, plenty powerful, etc. I'm looking down the line when the lead ban is in full effect in CA and I can't use my rimfire any longer. A powerful, accurate, airgun will do nicely. At that time, I'd like to step up to a .25 cal gun. I'll put the nice scope I have on the Disco on it. Then I'll drop a lighter spring in the Disco, go back to the original fiber optic sights, and make the Disco strictly my back yard gun, and use the hotter gun for hunting. I'd say the M-Rod vs. Hatsan thing is like Ford vs. Chevy, but since the M-Rod is American and the Hatsan is, what, Turkish?, I'd say it's more like Ford vs. Toyota. Both are great guns, and just a matter of personal preference. I just don't know how Hatsan is to deal with. Figured I'd ask.
I have owned both. My Mrod .25 was a much better shooter than any of the 3 Hatsan AT44 I owned straight from the box. I had two At44 shorts one in .177 and one in .22. I had an AT44 long in .25. After I put work into the 3 Hatsan I owned they shot as good as my Mrod did but again not out of the box. Just to save any one from asking yes I tried a ton of pellets and power ranges my Hatsans were also bought new last year so they were not old models. If I still owned the Hatsan's I would post a pic of how poor of a job they did machining the barrel lead and crown. Those were the two biggest factors in the accuracy. The mags needed polished up also but I think they addressed that problem with a mag change. After fixing the poor job on the lead, barrel port and crown they shot very good. For the money spent on the Hatsan I felt it was a good deal because I am able to fix the short comings. If I had to pay someone to do it then I would not feel the same I think the Mrod will be the winner hands down for getting parts quick and easy for a good price. All you have to do is call crosman and you have any part. Who has all the parts of a Hatsan in stock ready to ship?