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Title: .22 vs .25 at long range
Post by: crisancosmin19 on September 08, 2010, 12:12:01 AM
So, this is my question:

between a .22 and a .25 air rifle, top shelf both of them, which one will shoot better at long distance (say 100 yrds)?

Is my guess that the .25 will hit harder for sure correct? But will it shoot straighter for longer distances than a .22? Or will the faster flying .22 fly true for longer distances?

Why am I asking this: I like to plink a lot at long distance (spinners, etc). I want to know if I really need a Webley Patriot/ Kodiak in .25 or should I keep the .22 RWS 350M (the looks of this rifle are amazing!!!!). I try to shoot open sights (peep, lyman when I will get one)

So, what do you think? Thank yo for your help.
Title: Re: .22 vs .25 at long range
Post by: pindog2000 on September 08, 2010, 12:31:02 AM
The .22 will have a flatter trajectory than the .25 on a springer 50 to 75 yrds on a .22 cal on paper and 40yrds on .25 cal
Title: Re: .22 vs .25 at long range
Post by: Pete on September 08, 2010, 06:09:16 AM
hi..

I have a .25 patriot...
Really yer don't want a .25 springer of any make for plinking...
If yer not hunting..for long range go to a .177 flat trajectory
and yer don't need the fpe for spinners / targets...

The Patriot is not a target/plinker...lots of recoil & over 10lbs
scoped...After about 30 shots your arm & shoulder know you have
been up to something...they put out 29/30fpe with 25g pellets..

After about 40/50m the pellet heads groundwards pretty quick....

But if yer hunting..go for one....they make  BIG holes...
Title: Re: .22 vs .25 at long range
Post by: pcp4me on September 09, 2010, 01:54:15 PM
Well it would of course depend on the pellet used and the velocity of each gun. Driven to the same speeds with a similar pellet shape, the .25 caliber would have a BIG advantage over the .22 caliber.

But with guns like the Condor which I am told can deliver .22 caliber velocities in the neighborhood of 1400 fps and a .25 caliber in most guns with velocities of 1000 fps or less the .22 caliber would have an edge in trajectory. However with most guns other than the condor having velocities of around 1000 fps for .22 cal then I would take the Sumatra 2500 in 25 caliber which can hit the same velocity. The 25 caliber in that case would shoot flatter and pack much more terminal energy at any range for a given pellet.

And this is exactly my strategy. I am saving my money to buy a Sumatra 2500 carbine in 25 caliber. I have a disco in 22 caliber which does around 825 - 925 fps and expect the 25 at around the same speeds to be flatter shooting and harder hitting! Plus the carbine is a multi-shot repeater. :D ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: .22 vs .25 at long range
Post by: Nathan on September 09, 2010, 11:15:21 PM
Stick with the M350. Here's my reasons, first and foremost, cost. Beeman Kodiak/Webley Patriots (by virtue of their discontinued status) demand a high (and rising) price on the classifieds, when you're lucky enough to find one. Even if you sell your M350, you'll still have to lay out some serious cash to get one. .22 cal pellets are cheaper, so if you do a lot of plinking, cost will add up. There are some very accurate high quality pellets with good BC, that should maximize your plinking range in .22 .25 will drop faster. If you can't find a Patriot/ Kodiak, there are only a few other really hi power .25 spring/gas rifles. The Turkish WFH ( reasonably priced and gas ram upgrade available) has at best, mixed reviews. The Benji Trail XL has virtually no reviews in .25 and .22 are mixed as well. You can plunk down 4 figures for a .25 Theoben Eliminator/ Beeman Crow Mag (new, used aren't quite as much). The Gamo Hunter Extreme is available in .25 too, but I don't know if it's worth the $500 asking price.
Just my opinions, others may differ
Nathan