now ya got me thinking about my second PCP in a .25 cal
Hi there, just a question, is the 1" group at 15y sitting down and supported? Or standing up unsuported? If you are sitting down i would want a single hole group at that distance, you might try some other pellets, cause you should be able to do that at 30-40 yards, outside with a pcp, and for what i know, the marauder's have great accurasy even further, good luck with your shooting!
Quote from: Nomadic Pirate on July 20, 2016, 02:39:11 PMQuote from: Stewie on July 20, 2016, 11:40:08 AMLots of information, and I appreciate it. I've done a little research on the site as well, so it looks like a .25 tuned to 25 fpe, coupled with an ssg and--maybe--an lcd of some sort could keep the 25 very quiet. It would be extremely quiet, an other plus for going .25 is that if down the line things change and you need/want more power the .25 is easily powered back up to the 50 fpe range and more,....is good to have options a low powered .25 shooting hollowpoints like the predators and H&N Baracuda Hunter will have little problems of overpenetration, instead most if not all the energy will be transfered to the critter making marginal shots still very effective, because remember, we are not all world class snipers and things don't always go exactly how we plan Hey no fare.....all good points....now ya got me thinking about my second PCP in a .25 cal. It'll be the one I use on raccoons down in Fla. Seems to be more numerous there than here in Maine.
Quote from: Stewie on July 20, 2016, 11:40:08 AMLots of information, and I appreciate it. I've done a little research on the site as well, so it looks like a .25 tuned to 25 fpe, coupled with an ssg and--maybe--an lcd of some sort could keep the 25 very quiet. It would be extremely quiet, an other plus for going .25 is that if down the line things change and you need/want more power the .25 is easily powered back up to the 50 fpe range and more,....is good to have options a low powered .25 shooting hollowpoints like the predators and H&N Baracuda Hunter will have little problems of overpenetration, instead most if not all the energy will be transfered to the critter making marginal shots still very effective, because remember, we are not all world class snipers and things don't always go exactly how we plan
Lots of information, and I appreciate it. I've done a little research on the site as well, so it looks like a .25 tuned to 25 fpe, coupled with an ssg and--maybe--an lcd of some sort could keep the 25 very quiet.
Quote from: USAFANG67 on July 20, 2016, 03:09:06 PMQuote from: Nomadic Pirate on July 20, 2016, 02:39:11 PMQuote from: Stewie on July 20, 2016, 11:40:08 AMLots of information, and I appreciate it. I've done a little research on the site as well, so it looks like a .25 tuned to 25 fpe, coupled with an ssg and--maybe--an lcd of some sort could keep the 25 very quiet. It would be extremely quiet, an other plus for going .25 is that if down the line things change and you need/want more power the .25 is easily powered back up to the 50 fpe range and more,....is good to have options a low powered .25 shooting hollowpoints like the predators and H&N Baracuda Hunter will have little problems of overpenetration, instead most if not all the energy will be transfered to the critter making marginal shots still very effective, because remember, we are not all world class snipers and things don't always go exactly how we plan Hey no fare.....all good points....now ya got me thinking about my second PCP in a .25 cal. It'll be the one I use on raccoons down in Fla. Seems to be more numerous there than here in Maine.Took my first Coon this morning with my .25 MRod. head shot from about 30 yards. One shot, one kill. The impact from a hit is WAY more noise than the rifle itself. For ME it's a very quiet rifle, certainly quieter than my XL (and lighter too-synthetic stock). Very accurate as well, 1" groups @ 40 yards until you get bored. I got the .25 instead of the .22 because of the .22's bad rep, really glad I did. I dialed back the power to 35 fpe and get 2 mags of very consistent fps. I fill to 2500psi and refill at 1800. I can actually get three mags out of it but the poi starts to drop after about 20 total shots (2 1/2 mags) so I quit at 16 and refill.Ed
Quote from: Old Corps on July 21, 2016, 11:49:41 PMQuote from: USAFANG67 on July 20, 2016, 03:09:06 PMQuote from: Nomadic Pirate on July 20, 2016, 02:39:11 PMQuote from: Stewie on July 20, 2016, 11:40:08 AMLots of information, and I appreciate it. I've done a little research on the site as well, so it looks like a .25 tuned to 25 fpe, coupled with an ssg and--maybe--an lcd of some sort could keep the 25 very quiet. It would be extremely quiet, an other plus for going .25 is that if down the line things change and you need/want more power the .25 is easily powered back up to the 50 fpe range and more,....is good to have options a low powered .25 shooting hollowpoints like the predators and H&N Baracuda Hunter will have little problems of overpenetration, instead most if not all the energy will be transfered to the critter making marginal shots still very effective, because remember, we are not all world class snipers and things don't always go exactly how we plan Hey no fare.....all good points....now ya got me thinking about my second PCP in a .25 cal. It'll be the one I use on raccoons down in Fla. Seems to be more numerous there than here in Maine.Took my first Coon this morning with my .25 MRod. head shot from about 30 yards. One shot, one kill. The impact from a hit is WAY more noise than the rifle itself. For ME it's a very quiet rifle, certainly quieter than my XL (and lighter too-synthetic stock). Very accurate as well, 1" groups @ 40 yards until you get bored. I got the .25 instead of the .22 because of the .22's bad rep, really glad I did. I dialed back the power to 35 fpe and get 2 mags of very consistent fps. I fill to 2500psi and refill at 1800. I can actually get three mags out of it but the poi starts to drop after about 20 total shots (2 1/2 mags) so I quit at 16 and refill.EdPut an SSG in that bad boy and you will have a rifle you will never want to turn loose of. I bought a gen1 .25 from Jay with an SSG in it, it's giving 3 full mags within 3% ES at 44fpe. (with a 3000psi fill). Set up for 2500psi/35fpe, I think you could gain at least another mag from the increased efficiency.
I'll probably pick up a WAR SSG for it eventually but for now it's doing just fine with my lower psi fill tune. I only have a 3K scuba tank and Barska hand pump for fills, hence the lower 2500 psi fill/tune. I might cough up the $$$ for a carbon fiber tank (a Great White?) some day. What bothers me about that scenario is there is only one source for 4500 psi fills locally. If they should happen to close (the owner is a great guy but he's retirement age) then I'd be stuck with a very expensive door stop. The next closest fill place is a LONG way from here.
OK I am going to stick my oar in the water. If squirrels are you only issue, need quiet, 30 yards or less......why are you looking at the Marauder? Big and heavy, around $500 plus if you don't already own a PCP you need a pump or a tank. Now don't get me wrong the Marauder is a well regarded gun, but it might not be best for what you are describing. Look at the 2400KT form the Crosman custom shop. I have one in .177 that will drop a squirrel in its tracks at 30 yards with ease. Light nimble easy to move from room to room or cover to cover. I have about $200 invested in mine, that includes the TKO that makes it whisper quiet and a cheap center point scope. This is my go to gun for urban pest removal. I leave the big heave stuff for out in the wild.
WAR's SSG is great for folks who don't like to tinker much. But you can make your own if you choose to. Look up the loooong thread on the SSG and read through it, you might get some good ideas.As for the carbon tank...the problem with the tank is that once you get it, the expensive hump is out of the way. Then you start thinking, "heck, now that I have a tank I could shoot a couple of PCPs..." once you hit that slippery slope, it's lightspeed to full blown obsession. (I don't like calling it addiction unless I'm referring to someone else.)Since you haven't bought the carbon tank yet, you might investigate leasing a nitrogen tank. In that case, you just have an industrial supply bring the 6000psi tank out, and you just pay x dollars/yr to lease it, plus however often you need it refilled. You can shoot a long time on 6000 psi!!! Several guys on this forum are doing it (I'm not one, I learned too late). You would need to buy a hose/reg assembly, Joe Brancato at www.airtanksforsale.com is the most common source. If I have your interest, you might look up threads on that as well.
I don't remember what the SSG acronym stands for exactly (help me out guys), but it is a modified hammer design. It was pioneered by Rob Sterne "rsterne" here on GTA, with contributing ideas by several, then turned into a commercial product with Rob's permission by Wicked Air Rifles (WAR). While not strictly a Marauder-only idea, the WAR SSG is made to be a drop-in upgrade for the Marauder. Many folks have read through the SSG thread, and made their own device for Marauder, Discovery, QB78, and I think maybe a Hatsan.The SSG improves the airguns efficiency because it only permits the hammer to strike the valve once. Most modern hammer designs will allow a hammer to strike the valve, but then the spring pressure will bounce the hammer against the valve one or more subsequent times. These subsequent strikes basically just blow air out the barrel, so the gun goes through the air in its reservoir more quickly.So...how's that?
I don't remember what the SSG acronym stands for exactly (help me out guys), but it is a modified hammer design. It was pioneered by Rob Sterne "rsterne" here on GTA, with contributing ideas by several, then turned into a commercial product with Rob's permission by Wicked Air Rifles (WAR). While not strictly a Marauder-only idea, the WAR SSG is made to be a drop-in upgrade for the Marauder. Many folks have read through the SSG thread, and made their own device for Marauder, Discovery, QB78, and I think maybe a Hatsan. The SSG improves the airguns efficiency because it only permits the hammer to strike the valve once. Most modern hammer designs will allow a hammer to strike the valve, but then the spring pressure will bounce the hammer against the valve one or more subsequent times. These subsequent strikes basically just blow air out the barrel, so the gun goes through the air in its reservoir more quickly. So...how's that?
Doesn't the MRod Genll have this debouncer?
I am questioning the 1 inch at 15 yards. My .25 produced a dime sized hole with 5 to 8 shots at that distance (pretty much hole on hole).
I can also verify that the impact from the pellet was louder than the rifle's report.
No, then gen 2 comes with a "depinger" (although there are probably better ones aftermarket). A depinger lives in the air tube and minimizes turbulence of the sudden air flow when the gun is fired that results in a "pinging" noise. It really just helps acoustics, and doesn't add anything to the gun's performance.