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MikeSSS
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Considering Hatsan 125 or 135, in .22 caliber. Tell us about them.
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July 05, 2014, 03:36:28 PM »
Desire here is for a high fpe .22 caliber but one that is also accurate. Not having to take the air tank is a plus, this rifle probably will not be shot much. AA, JSB, FTT, Kodiak and other pellets will be tried.
I had a .22 Benjamin Discovery, it shot 14.3 CPHPs at 820 fps, for 21.5 fpe. It was a good rifle but not that accurate, the new owner is getting good accuracy from JSB 18.1s.
So, what is it like to use one of these big Hatsans? What results are you getting?
Thanks,
Mike S in San Antonio
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Re: Considering Hatsan 125 or 135, in .22 caliber. Tell us about them.
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July 05, 2014, 05:06:32 PM »
Hey MikeSSS,
I have never owned a Benjamin Discovery which you are using as a reference point, but from what I've read, the Discovery should be pretty accurate (you may have just gotton a "stinker"). However, I do own a Benjamin 342 pump which gives the same
minimal
recoil as a PCP and is accurate at 30 yards.
For you, How accurate does the gun need to be (dime size groups)? At what distances -> 30 to 50 yards or more?
From my experience with my Hatsan 95's and 135, they are accurate (trigger man = it's limitation), but are a
different animal
than a PCP! IMHO, these guns are not easy to shoot
accurately
vs. PCP's or pneumatic airguns. They are powerful springer's shooting a .22 cal pellet at 800 fps to 1,000 fps. The (spring) power generated can make them very jumpy or hold sensitive (Vortex Gas Rams are
less
hold sensitive) and seemingly less consistent.
I would think the Hatsan 135 would be a BEAST to shoot accurately vs. a Discovery!
But the 125 or 135 can be very accurate, you just need experience with them (plus a good "Tune") to shoot nicely at 30 to 50 yards or more.
If you are used to shooting magnum springer's -> go for it!!,
but I'm not sure they can outshoot a Discovery?
Also, the Hatsan 125 & 135 weigh over 9 lbs vs. the Discovery at 5.5 lbs! That's a big difference to get used to......
My two cents..........
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Re: Considering Hatsan 125 or 135, in .22 caliber. Tell us about them.
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July 05, 2014, 09:53:35 PM »
I have the 125 vortex sniper in.22, and it is as good as sprinters get!
That being said it is hold sensitive , if you don't cram that stock into your shoulder and just cradle the front end ,you won't hit anything smaller than 3". I can shoot the center of a water bottle lid at 40 yds with mine or at 20 yds pellet in the same hole! Not all the time but when I do my part it does it's part!
Mine shoots a crossman premier pellet at 920 fps all day! But a magnum rifle is cantankerous !
You have got to learn the way it wants to be held and which pellet it likes! I like my Hatsan but not everyone gets good ones in the springers ,but mostly they just need cleaning inside to get rid of metal dust ,sand gunk whatever else is in them! Mine was full but now it is clean ready to go! Good luck my friend
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Re: Considering Hatsan 125 or 135, in .22 caliber. Tell us about them.
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July 06, 2014, 12:44:57 AM »
I had a Hatsan 135, beautiful rifle, very powerful and accurate with practice, just weighted a ton. If the weight does not scare you I highly recommend the 135.
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SPA M16 .25 cal; Benjamin Akela .22 cal; Evanix REX .357 cal; Seneca Recluse .357; MrodAir M10; MrodAir P12; AirForce Escape .25; DAR .25 cal; Liberty .22 cal; Hatsan Bullboss; Hatsan BT65 Elite;
Hatsan BT65 QE; Hatsan 135; Hatsan 125; Umarex Octane .25 custom; FDPCP GEN1; FDPCP GEN2; Nitro Venom Dusk .177; Nitro Venom Dusk .22; Trail NP; Crosman Phantom; Crosman 1377
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Re: Considering Hatsan 125 or 135, in .22 caliber. Tell us about them.
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July 08, 2014, 07:17:20 PM »
I have H135, beautiful big fat wooden beauty that demands consistent handling that I love:)
Let me explain:
Provides lots of energy (great for hunting), both hands cocking for average Joe.
Decent shooting skills required. Recommended firm shoulder and soft front hold.
Naked 4kg heavy, close to 4.5-5kg with scope, mounts... After every 30min of shooting from hand (without rest) had to take 10min break.
For scope mounts recommended Dampa mount or similar. If tight with budget go for single piece mount (about 20$ on ebay) with stopping pin and thin patches of rubber between mounts and scope tube (for example one could cut rubber balloon in strips or similar MacGyver solution...) or some thin cloth strip to firm the grip (silk?).
For first 100-150 shots use lighter pellets to diesel it out, later use 1g pellets (in .22) or heavier to avoid too high muzzle speed and pellet tumbling. Turkish walnut left me drolling when i saw it for the first time.
After warranty expires provides lots of fun and steep learning curve
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Re: Considering Hatsan 125 or 135, in .22 caliber. Tell us about them.
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July 08, 2014, 09:55:11 PM »
I have a 135. Consistently shoots over 1000 FPS with H&N FTT 5.55 head. I use the iron sights because I know it's going to kill any scope that is put on it. Accurate, powerful rifle at a great price. Mine has less than a 100 rounds through it so I can't speak for durability.
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Re: Considering Hatsan 125 or 135, in .22 caliber. Tell us about them.
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July 13, 2014, 02:44:09 PM »
The 135 is a great rifle for sure, but don't forget the 125. I got a 125 sniper vortex in .25cal about a month and a half ago and have put close to 1000 rounds through it. And in .25 i consistently pick off cans at 70 yards with h&n FTTs. I would assume a .22 would have similar accuracy. But the vortex ram in the gun is one of the sweetest shooting rams I've shot. Ive found it not to be hold sensitive at all. And an arh seal and lube makes the gun smooth as butter. You really can't go wrong with either gun, good luck with your new magnum Springer!
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Re: Considering Hatsan 125 or 135, in .22 caliber. Tell us about them.
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February 19, 2016, 06:28:29 PM »
I used to have the 125th vortex and 135 springer in .22 and they both shot similiar. One definitely needs a good one piece scope mount that has wide scope rings to keep the scope from creeping. Both guns where very hold sensitive. Very similiar to my 90s Beeman Kodiak. I eventually got rid of the 125 and 135. This is due to after averaging the distance I would shoot game and realized that 95% of what I shot at was 35 yards or less and even the largest game I was shooting, woodchucks, raccoons, etc didn't even need half the power to humanely take. So, I have been using lower powered Hatsan vortex's in .25 cal. The 87qe, 95 and Edge produce around 650fps with 19.9gr pellets. The rams have less pressure, therefore the recoil is less and accuracy is better. 18fpe in .25 cal is devestating on anything I have shot, large raccoons, woodchuck, 1 bobcat and countless smaller game. That less recoil really helps with accuracy and that's what matters. I have never felt under-powered and if the shot is a little further than 35 yards, I can use my scopes mil dots.
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Re: Considering Hatsan 125 or 135, in .22 caliber. Tell us about them.
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February 19, 2016, 10:44:39 PM »
Have the 125 in .25 <wish I had gotten the 135> but was working with a budget. and the 125 was on sale.
Great powerful gun and accuracy is good , I am considering a 135 in .22 due to the fact I prefer the .22 trajectory, to the .25s, and I had the plastic stock of the 125 break using it in cold weather.
Defiantly a scope Tester !
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