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Title: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: SpringerMan on March 16, 2013, 02:03:04 PM
HATSAN is coming out with a user-adjustable gas ram is being called "VORTEX". It appears to be based on the design of the original THEOBEN gas ram. It is to be user-adjustable via a pump, just like the first THEOBEN gas rams.

This thread on GTA has some details http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=42662.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=42662.0)

I spoke with Rick Eutsler about a month ago and he CONFIRMED the information and said that they WILL be available in the USA..

Also, HATSAN is likely going to have ALL replacement parts available by the end of the year.

This site is Russian, but there is no mistake in interpreting the content http://www.forum.airgunshop.kiev.ua/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=182 (http://www.forum.airgunshop.kiev.ua/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=182)

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Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on March 16, 2013, 03:25:15 PM
Great, something to look forward for the future, I see some of them in my Airsenal for sure :)
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: SpringerMan on March 16, 2013, 04:48:45 PM
Great, something to look forward for the future, I see some of them in my Airsenal for sure :)

HATSAN 2013 Catalog . . . Looks like HATSAN "SPRINGS" are GONE, across the board, in rifles!

http://www.hatsan.com.tr/pdf/hatsan_airguns_2013.pdf (http://www.hatsan.com.tr/pdf/hatsan_airguns_2013.pdf)

PLUS, with full parts availability, that is HUGE !
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Mpac on March 16, 2013, 05:34:06 PM
From what I read the springs are still their just it's available for upgrade for the ram.So PA probably will upgrade for you if you want it or whoever the carrier will be.Then again they could already have them in or without.Hopefully they will sell just the ram kit for the ones out there already.My piston is ram ready.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: SpringerMan on March 16, 2013, 06:26:34 PM
From what I read the springs are still their just it's available for upgrade for the ram.So PA probably will upgrade for you if you want it or whoever the carrier will be.Then again they could already have them in or without.Hopefully they will sell just the ram kit for the ones out there already.My piston is ram ready.

The Ram Kits are ALREADY being sold from a Polish website. A GTA member has already ordered and received them .

http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=42662.msg398855#msg398855 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=42662.msg398855#msg398855)

LINK to Polish Website

https://www.sharg.pl/?osCsid=6e47f08bfbeb8b18be0688d675e86725&language=en (https://www.sharg.pl/?osCsid=6e47f08bfbeb8b18be0688d675e86725&language=en)

Type 1 is for Hatsan 55 - 99

Type 2 is for 125 - 155

Type 3 is for the Striker series

Type 4 is for Hatsan Dominators

Type 5 is for Hatsan 100 and 105 Torpedo
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: SpringerMan on March 16, 2013, 08:02:22 PM
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Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: SpringerMan on March 16, 2013, 08:07:05 PM
VELOCITY COMPARISON AND ACCURACY

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Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: mtbdrew on March 18, 2013, 09:45:34 AM
Very interesting thanks for posting.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: fortyshooter on March 19, 2013, 10:13:56 AM
Looks like great news for upgrading your older Sniper 125,when the spring breaks!
Will the power be the same or greater with the their gas ram kit,as in the .25 cal Sniper 125?
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: SpringerMan on March 20, 2013, 11:28:53 PM
Looks like great news for upgrading your older Sniper 125,when the spring breaks!
Will the power be the same or greater with the their gas ram kit,as in the .25 cal Sniper 125?

I have only seen that one chart for comparing velocity. If it holds true, across the board, the Vortex gas ram should give the same performance. However, there isn't enough information to say for sure.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Johnny Z on March 21, 2013, 12:52:09 AM
Great info, thanks for posting also. Now just have to start saving and finally get a .25 cal.

Thanks
John
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: KGatLC on March 23, 2013, 08:16:10 PM
         Hope those replacement parts do become available. If so, I'll be getting me a Hatsan. That walnut woodgrain camo pattern is SWEET!
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: SpringerMan on March 23, 2013, 09:06:18 PM
         Hope those replacement parts do become available. If so, I'll be getting me a Hatsan. That walnut woodgrain camo pattern is SWEET!

Our first indication of when parts will become available will likely be through Rick Eutsler.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on March 24, 2013, 02:27:51 AM
I' ll be all over those rifle,...time to start selling all my springers
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: darthsoul on March 24, 2013, 03:55:54 AM
i have phoned to hatsan sales department in Turkey and they said it will be aviable in april or may in Turkey, you guys will get it sooner for sure... -.- thanks to hatsans import policy -.-

edit: they are aviable in bulgaria, poland and russia. since it will be aviable for Turkey in one or two months expect it very very soon for US
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: SpringerMan on March 24, 2013, 09:41:46 AM
I have phoned to Hatsan sales department in Turkey and they said it will be available in April or may in Turkey. You guys will get it sooner for sure... -.- Thanks to Hatsan's import policy -.-

edit: they are available in Bulgaria, Poland and Russia. since it will be available for Turkey in one or two months expect it very very soon for US

Excellent research !

This is gong to be good - really good.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: darthsoul on March 24, 2013, 02:36:42 PM
Thanks ::) by the way, the guy in the techincs and repair said, starting from the global release of the rams they will only produce gas ram only rifles, this means no more spring guns there fore the spring releated spare parts and the spring it self begin to dissapear slowly from the market. i highly recomend on upgrading on thoose gas-rams because you will probably won't find any spare parts in the future.. and the guy underlined that there will be no velocity loss when you get to the gas-rams.. yaay good news :D the thing that im not sure about is, the guy also said that "when we ship to the US, the vendors like pyramid air can put rams in the rifles" well... is this means the end customer will not be able to buy the ram himself ? will the vendor or hatsan make the rules for selling the end customer in US ? i think the vendors will try to gain profit from it and try to convert guns to get some "montage cost" paid, but who knows maybe they will sell it a bit higher and get that little profit in that way. when i call them on monday for my broken front sight and lost cheekpiece adjustment screw, i will also bother them with my and your questions ::)
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: ronnie_simmons1 on March 24, 2013, 04:10:53 PM
Will these news rams have to be charged or pumped up? I saw where you said they were adjustable. I don't really understand what you mean. I am a newbie, so maybe its a dumb question.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: IRONWORKER on March 24, 2013, 06:08:24 PM
A gas rammed 150 would be awesome!
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: darthsoul on March 24, 2013, 06:26:48 PM
Will these news rams have to be charged or pumped up? I saw where you said they were adjustable. I don't really understand what you mean. I am a newbie, so maybe its a dumb question.

i think they will come pre-charged. they have a small valve in the end cap of the cylinder and you can plug a hpa pump or tank or a regular compressor with a pcp filling part and change the inner pressure of the cylinder. max pressure will be 150 bars.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: cherokeesteve on March 24, 2013, 07:29:25 PM
Looks like great news for upgrading your older Sniper 125,when the spring breaks!
Will the power be the same or greater with the their gas ram kit,as in the .25 cal Sniper 125?

Funny you mention the upgrade upon spring breaking, when I purchased my 125TH from Pyramyd I went back and forth debating between buying the stock spring model and the nitro piston model. Finally told myself to spend less, get the spring model and get the gas piston when the spring needed replacing. It's great to see there's another option to the nitro piston direct from Hatsan.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: bbv13 on March 25, 2013, 02:23:52 AM
Will these news rams have to be charged or pumped up? I saw where you said they were adjustable. I don't really understand what you mean. I am a newbie, so maybe its a dumb question.

There's not much information about them but I assume the Vortex is nito gas filled to a point and pumped up to the max required by the government or your personal taste depending on where you live.

Bryan
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: darthsoul on March 25, 2013, 02:48:37 AM
Will these news rams have to be charged or pumped up? I saw where you said they were adjustable. I don't really understand what you mean. I am a newbie, so maybe its a dumb question.

There's not much information about them but I assume the Vortex is nito gas filled to a point and pumped up to the max required by the government or your personal taste depending on where you live.

Bryan

what i know is they are hpa filled not nitro
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: bbv13 on March 25, 2013, 07:48:21 PM
Will these news rams have to be charged or pumped up? I saw where you said they were adjustable. I don't really understand what you mean. I am a newbie, so maybe its a dumb question.

There's not much information about them but I assume the Vortex is nito gas filled to a point and pumped up to the max required by the government or your personal taste depending on where you live.

Bryan

what i know is they are hpa filled not nitro

Really? As long as it works and doesn't loose any power that's fine with me.

Bryan
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: WHITEFANG on March 25, 2013, 09:11:29 PM
LIKE TO TRY ONE OF THOSE BUT the XL ram works just fine. The PA ram does as well. I just do not think the PA ram is as powerful as the XL. WE ALL KNOW I HAVE PLAYED WITH THE 125/135. Rammed them and put the vortek super springs in them. Right now I could not be any happier with the 135 .25 XL rammed and the 125 TH stock on it. Now that I have the new ARH piston seal the gun has taken the seal great. Great fit. No chrony yet but I can piece a 30 gal steel drum at 20 yards. The seal removed was burnt around the seal nub same as the 135 .22 not to mention undersized. The new ram has to be good but sorry so far after many shots the XL for around $30 dollars and some modding is working out great. Prior to the seal change with the flared FTT I could average 844 fps easy. The gun is dead on at 20 yds and after the stock change a much better feeling shooter. Just took supper at 30 yards with a head shot.  No kick or movement. Rabbit and gravy tonight.

FANG
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Mpac on March 25, 2013, 09:38:25 PM
Like to see what the chrony is with the JM 135 new seal.When you have time I know your a busy man doing mods.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: WHITEFANG on March 25, 2013, 10:08:43 PM
Comming soon! ! New lathe should be here Wednesday. Got a back log on lathe work.
ARH APEX 10" MUZZLE BRAKES ARE A DEAL FOR THE $$. BLEMS are as good as his non blems.

FANG
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: darthsoul on March 26, 2013, 07:51:38 AM
because i live in Turkey i would prefer hatsans rams, i dont have any machinery to make any other aftermarket ram to fit in a 125, even if i find a pre-machined drop-in kit, unless it  doesnt have advantages over the vortex, i will get the vortex because of the customer service of hatsan
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on March 26, 2013, 02:19:15 PM
please give us your reviews as soon as you are able to get one, I've been waiting for a system like this, really looking forward for then to hit the US shores :)
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: darthsoul on March 27, 2013, 03:27:11 AM
sure :D but hatsan is a export oriented company, they export %94 of their productions to the other countries, because of that Turkey generally gets new goods a little bit later than you, but i will insist to the guy at hatsan to get one and as soon as  i get it i will post a review of it :))
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Rama on April 17, 2013, 12:32:09 AM

what i know is they are hpa filled not nitro


Really? As long as it works and doesn't loose any power that's fine with me.

Bryan

Yup, according to the catalog that SpringerMan linked, Hatsan's Vortex gas pistons use "regular air instead of any other type of gas".  Presumably, this is because they intend for people to be able to adjust the power of the gun by adjusting the base pressure inside the chamber (by adding or removing air).  This is in contrast to what look to be perma-sealed chambers filled with nitrogen used by Crosman's "Nitro Piston" and Gamo's "IGT" gas pistons.

The only issue that I could see would be if there was poorer cold-weather performance due to using regular air instead of nitrogen.  A quick Google search brings up a lot of stuff about filling car tires with nitrogen instead of air, and it sounds like the only noticeable differences between nitrogen and air (at car tire pressure ranges) are due to moisture contaminating the air, not so much the gases in the air itself.  I would guess that this would mean that you wouldn't want to adjust the power of your Vortex gas piston on a humid day?  I dunno.  I'm also not sure if this negligible difference between nitrogen and regular air expansion due to temperature would still be negligible at high pressure (car tires generally don't go much past 35 PSI), but I would guess that Hatsan knows what they're doing.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Ahab on April 17, 2013, 02:05:27 PM
The Theoben gas ram has used this system for more than a few years and is in my HW90. Mine is set at max 26 Bar and in .25 cal is an awsome hunting rifle. ;D
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: drewciferpike on April 17, 2013, 11:28:17 PM
I would guess that this would mean that you wouldn't want to adjust the power of your Vortex gas piston on a humid day?

I forget where the actual link is located, but a member made a simple, effective air-drying system for use with a hand-pump. I would definitely use something like it, if I was adjusting the ram, myself.

If my spring ever breaks, I know I've got another option, so that's cool.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Rama on April 18, 2013, 01:28:36 AM
I would guess that this would mean that you wouldn't want to adjust the power of your Vortex gas piston on a humid day?

I forget where the actual link is located, but a member made a simple, effective air-drying system for use with a hand-pump. I would definitely use something like it, if I was adjusting the ram, myself.

If my spring ever breaks, I know I've got another option, so that's cool.

I was thinking about running the air conditioner in your car for a while, or running one of those window AC units in a small room for a while, then doing it in there (if you could manage it).  But yeah, a less awkward method would probably be handy.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Nikoman on April 18, 2013, 02:20:42 AM
Interesting, the theoben ram has been copied before (the original vortek from Tom) there were a couple of problems with that one - user error maybe amoung them, you know folks WILL over charge them if they can- most all failed and no support there was also the little patient infringment problem but that's now well out of date.
Would be interesting to find out if it's the same chinese company that makes the crosman/vortek ram that is going to make the "vortex" or if hatsan is doing it in house, or?
 Hopefully it will be rebuildable and have parts support.
John
I agree!
That's the reason why Theoben stopped selling the pump. All the Theoben rams were adjustable (new and old) except for the drop in units used on other brand rifles. The older guns have an easily accessed valve without having to take the stock off the gun, the newer ones might be harder to access but nevertheless can be adjusted. They wanted to discourage people from overcharging the rams (which happened a lot) which resulted in burned piston seals.
Not sure why someone would want to fully charge a ram to the max when it only gives you a violent shot cycle and not the mention a cocking effort of epic proportions.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: drewciferpike on April 18, 2013, 02:36:25 AM
I was thinking about running the air conditioner in your car for a while, or running one of those window AC units in a small room for a while, then doing it in there (if you could manage it).  But yeah, a less awkward method would probably be handy.

I just got this mental image of my wife coming home, opening the door, and muttering, "What the %$&*..." as she sees her breath frost in the air. She catches me in the office, wrapped in a coat and hat, and I cry, "Quick! Close the door! I'm charging my gas ram and I had the AC on for 10 hours!"

Not sure why someone would want to fully charge a ram to the max when it only gives you a violent shot cycle and not the mention a cocking effort of epic proportions.

Ugh... I could only imagine. In some ways (only having shot a ram rifle, once), I would think a ram would be much worse at such high levels, compared to a spring, as there's no curve in power, right?
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: harry palmer on April 18, 2013, 02:45:27 PM
We`ve had the "rammed" Hatsan 60GS over here in the U.K. for a couple of years now,  http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/hatsan_60_gs/ (http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/hatsan_60_gs/)  ,only down-side is that they are sealed units ,hence not user fixable (which not worthy!);these new rams look a lot better ;D!!!
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: KRJoye on April 19, 2013, 08:57:09 AM
Just purchased a new 135th(.25) from AGW this is the spring version. Had no idea i was purchasing the last of the springed 125ths! Its on its way and i'm pumped. Anything i should be aware of with this beast?

Just getting back into airguns after 20+ years can't beleive all the hype, web stores and technology dedicated to the sport now. I think airsoft may have something to due with it. Last gun i purchased was my Camo CF20(.177)

Regardless, what should i pick up for the 135th in regard to scopes, spare parts etc? I really like the new magnum spring guns. Gas, PC etc sounds like a pain.

I mainly target shoot, may get into some varmant hunting, i'm on 5 acres in rural area.


Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Bullit on April 19, 2013, 11:04:39 AM
Get a magnum rated AIRGUN scope!  Standard scopes won't survive long.  I personally use the Leapers Accushot or Generation series scopes.  Their mounts and (4) screw scoperings also. Whatever brand, make sure it's magnum class AIRGUN rated.  In the $100-175.00 range you have a some decent choices.   Lesser scopes aren't economical in the long run.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Hatsanman13 on October 02, 2013, 11:53:23 AM
Looks like great news for upgrading your older Sniper 125,when the spring breaks!
Will the power be the same or greater with the their gas ram kit,as in the .25 cal Sniper 125?

Funny you mention the upgrade upon spring breaking, when I purchased my 125TH from Pyramyd I went back and forth debating between buying the stock spring model and the nitro piston model. Finally told myself to spend less, get the spring model and get the gas piston when the spring needed replacing. It's great to see there's another option to the nitro piston direct from Hatsan.
I took the option with my 135 spring let loose can wait to get it back
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: dw on October 02, 2013, 12:41:41 PM
Speaking of the Hatsan Mod 135 with the Vortex gas piston, I very recently inquired at a couple of sites online about getting this version new out of the box and was told it was not yet available (Airgun Depot and Pyramyd).  Can these be bought new here in the USA yet, or is it something you can only get installed as part of a repair?  Also, not to hijack the thread, but does anyone know if the Mod 135 might ever be made available in a left-handed version?  Does it make a big difference to a left-handed shooter to use a stock which is right-handed?

Thanks,

Dennis
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Novagun on October 03, 2013, 11:59:15 AM
Left handed shooters using rifle with a right handed stock in most cases does not make much difference but there are some rifles where it does. The AirArms rifles with the high monte-carlo stock that rolls over to the right side presents a sharp edge to a left handers cheek and you can't see through the scope properly. There are others such as the Steyr that don't suit left handers if they are set up for right handers but the less extreme stocks with just a cheek piece on the left hand side of the butt  for right handed shooters makes no difference at all. 

No news at all down here about gas ram Hatsans. I guess the importers will get rid of all their springer stock before talking about gas rams. I guess we could resort to importing from USA.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Freth on October 06, 2013, 07:57:35 PM
I recently bought a Hatsan Sniper 85 Vortex from PA .. in .22 cal.  I'm no technician.  I like the way it shoots.  My grandsons say it is quieter and smoother.  That's all I can tell you.  The Vortex is currently available in certain new Hatsan air rifle models.  Check PA or AD.
Title: HATSAN 135 22 "VORTEX" Option offered by HATSAN USA.
Post by: Hatsanman13 on October 11, 2013, 10:32:45 AM
 Wow I got one installed in my Hatsan 135 22 cal Last week. I was using a Adroid app to check it speed some how at that time I had a extra 2 yards in the gismo and came up with some wild reading.  Today I corrected that and operation faulit data to 31 yards it will not take the plus 6". 

(http://www.usasolarwind.com/135Hat.jpg) 

Yes it is hitting harder than ever  this reading was using Crosman 14.3 gr HP pellets from the tin.


At 20 yards groups were tiny with poor mans rest. 

(http://www.usasolarwind.com/20yard.jpg)

I taped a penny to hardwood plank at 20 yards.

I site was milldot high it is corrected now.

The power is insane I lost the penny it had left the yard.

(http://www.usasolarwind.com/20mdh.jpg)
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: triggerfest on October 12, 2013, 06:04:25 PM
I tested the 125 Vortex .25 today at the local weapon shop..., what a sweet shooting airgun !!! Cocks very smooth ! I had the opportunity to test a 125 with a spring too, what a difference... I'm impressed.

The 125 Vortex is now on my wishlist for sure  8)
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Laz on October 22, 2013, 03:42:27 PM
So with the Vortex, you can pump it up with hpa pump to max, and keep pumping if it loses pressure later? If so that sounds pretty cool.
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: triggerfest on October 22, 2013, 04:28:53 PM
So with the Vortex, you can pump it up with hpa pump to max, and keep pumping if it loses pressure later? If so that sounds pretty cool.

Well, that's what they told me in the shop indeed...
Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: brogreg on November 13, 2013, 08:52:16 PM
i was wondering if anyone seen the installation instructions that come with the Gas ram
would be nice to have a peek at those

Title: Re: HATSAN "VORTEX" Adjustable Gas Rams - Coming To The USA Soon !
Post by: Hatsanman13 on November 15, 2013, 01:39:13 PM
Will these news rams have to be charged or pumped up? I saw where you said they were adjustable. I don't really understand what you mean. I am a newbie, so maybe its a dumb question.

There's not much information about them but I assume the Vortex is nito gas filled to a point and pumped up to the max required by the government or your personal taste depending on where you live.

Bryan

what i know is they are hpa filled not nitro

Really? As long as it works and doesn't loose any power that's fine with me.

Bryan

I had one installed on my Hatsan 135 only Crono I have is Android app.  Shows 100 fps gain with a cleaned barrel.  show same as before with a Dirty barrel. I left is cocked over night just to see. No loss of speed or power. gain in LBS to cock was 45lbs is 66lbs now. I love it. still shoots great.