Very dicey proposition right now on getting a BB. Unless it's someone you know or someone with verified selling record it's up in the air till it's in your hands. I really do think David, that you'll get your money back ok, i bet they are an unmanned site, someones 2nd job in their basement kind of thing. I did a similar order with someone like that, who drop ships everything, and they just took a long time to get my funds returned. They DID charge me a "return fee" though.. Boy now more than ever, if Crosman comes out with an affordable bigbore in a production quantity, they will OWN the bigbore market huh? J