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Title: STOEGER X20S SUPPRESSOR
Post by: Tarheel on January 24, 2012, 08:27:48 PM
The STOEGER X20S SUPPRESSOR rifle looks very interesting.

Obviously, that is not merely a "barrel shroud" . . .

Is the "device" on the end of the barrel capable of being opened up to allow the internal structures to be cleaned ?

Dave
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPRESSOR
Post by: Motorhead on January 24, 2012, 09:50:13 PM
Contact ARCHER air guns and frankly ... Just ask ?
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPRESSOR
Post by: Tarheel on January 25, 2012, 12:21:14 AM
Contact ARCHER air guns and frankly ... Just ask ?

I prefer to talk to people that "own" items, as opposed to people who "sell" items. Their answers tend to be based on "real world" experience.

Dave
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPRESSOR
Post by: stevemag on January 25, 2012, 12:30:44 AM
i think there is a review here, several members have one, you'll get an answer for sure.
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPRESSOR
Post by: Motorhead on January 25, 2012, 12:42:21 AM
Question has nothing to do with bias of a seller ... it either comes apart for service or it does not ?
It would make sense that asking the question to an actual service provider of questioned air rifle makes perfect sense  :P
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPRESSOR
Post by: Tpatner412 on January 25, 2012, 04:38:30 AM
I would think they don't mainly for legal reasons. Most of te time items like this are permanently affixed to the barrel so they cannot be moved to another weapon
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPRESSOR
Post by: Lambchops on January 25, 2012, 05:24:25 AM
I have the Stoeger X20 S, and yes, the baffles do come out when you take off the end cap.
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPRESSOR
Post by: Tarheel on January 25, 2012, 12:05:42 PM
I have the Stoeger X20 S, and yes, the baffles do come out when you take off the end cap.

Thank you for that info.

Is the end cap threaded, press-fit, or retained by screws ?

Is that a Spring in the Expansion Chamber ?

Can the entire unit be removed to permit cleaning / rust prevention in the area of the Aft Chamber around the barrel ?

(http://www.glasgowfieldsports.co.uk/hires/stoeger/stoeger-stoeger-afc.jpg)

Thanks for your help !

Dave

Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPRESSOR
Post by: reelangler on January 25, 2012, 12:50:28 PM
Thank you for taking a look at our Suppressor rifle.  I can understand your question about cleaning baffles, with having shot firearms with suppressor on the end it is necessary to clean the powder residue that builds up on the inside.  However with an air rifle this is not the case, the interior is properly cleaned and coated with a rust preventative during factory assembly.  I will caution you that opening up the suppressor is not advised and would void your warranty.  Please refer to our website at usa.stoegerairguns.com under the care and maintenance section.

To answer your questions yes that is a spring, it is the tension for the baffles to make sure they do not shift for proper alignment.  The Suppression unit cannot be removed as it is molded plastic and must be maintain attached to the gun.

I believe you had some concerns with talking to Mr. Archer above, please do not hesitate to contact him, we value his opinion and suggestions here at Stoeger Air very much.

Best Regards,

Dan Rice
Stoeger Airguns Product Manager
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPRESSOR
Post by: Tarheel on January 25, 2012, 01:02:00 PM
Thank you for taking a look at our Suppressor rifle.  I can understand your question about cleaning baffles, with having shot firearms with suppressor on the end it is necessary to clean the powder residue that builds up on the inside.  However with an air rifle this is not the case, the interior is properly cleaned and coated with a rust preventative during factory assembly.  I will caution you that opening up the suppressor is not advised and would void your warranty.  Please refer to our website at usa.stoegerairguns.com under the care and maintenance section.

To answer your questions yes that is a spring, it is the tension for the baffles to make sure they do not shift for proper alignment.  The Suppression unit cannot be removed as it is molded plastic and must be maintain attached to the gun.

I believe you had some concerns with talking to Mr. Archer above, please do not hesitate to contact him, we value his opinion and suggestions here at Stoeger Air very much.

Best Regards,

Dan Rice
Stoeger Airguns Product Manager


Dan,

Thank you for taking to time to respond to my questions.

My only concern with talking to any vendor, regarding technical questions, is that a vendor's first priority is generally to sell their items, rather than respond to questions that might not "close the deal", so to speak.

The Stoeger X20S SUPPRESSOR looks like an excellent rifle, especially for shooters with neighbors nearby or for hunters seeking not to "spook" game over a wide area after a shot is taken.

Again, thank you for your comments !

Dave
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPRESSOR
Post by: Tpatner412 on January 25, 2012, 01:23:03 PM
Dave,

If you read Mr. &^%$# blog you will find that he actually did a very good review of the stoegers pointing out things that needed to be improved and to the best of my knowledge stoeger has listened.

You can trust Stephen's opinion.
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPRESSOR
Post by: Tarheel on January 25, 2012, 04:26:58 PM
Dave,

If you read Mr. &^%$# blog you will find that he actually did a very good review of the stoegers pointing out things that needed to be improved and to the best of my knowledge stoeger has listened.

You can trust Stephen's opinion.

Thanks . . . I'll check that out.

Do you have a link to that blog ?

Thanks !

Dave
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPRESSOR
Post by: Lambchops on January 25, 2012, 04:42:34 PM
Check out this well written review I did a while back.

 http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,19766.0.html (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,19766.0.html)
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPPRESSOR
Post by: Ddgrego on January 25, 2012, 05:39:29 PM
i have 3 Stoegers and the x20s has been modified with a gas ram and new trigger.It was a good gun before but now its fantastic.My other stoegers do very well also so i wouldn't hesitate to but another one.Archers is a very good place to ask a question as he will tell you both plus and minuses and you can go from there.They have a 2 year warranty on them also as long as there stock.Ive had only one issue where a scope broke and had a replacement in apx a week or less so i was very happy with there service from Stoeger. Good Luck!
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPPRESSOR
Post by: Tarheel on January 25, 2012, 07:02:53 PM
i have 3 Stoegers and the x20s has been modified with a gas ram and new trigger.It was a good gun before but now its fantastic.My other stoegers do very well also so i wouldn't hesitate to but another one.Archers is a very good place to ask a question as he will tell you both plus and minuses and you can go from there.They have a 2 year warranty on them also as long as there stock.Ive had only one issue where a scope broke and had a replacement in apx a week or less so i was very happy with there service from Stoeger. Good Luck!

Did the Gas Ram affect velocity, either positively or negatively ?

Which Gas Ram was used for the modification ?

Thanks !

Dave
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPPRESSOR
Post by: Izztyrr on January 25, 2012, 07:45:06 PM
Gas ram in an X20S? How hard was that to do?
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPPRESSOR
Post by: Ddgrego on January 29, 2012, 01:22:04 AM
in my case the velocity went up as i bought this gun used and it was still fairly new but was full of gunk.It is such a sweet gun now Thanks to Gene the Almighty! lol I wouldn't want another any other way now.After several hundred shots she leveled off at 780-790 fps and very quiet.I switched to a wood stock and that help her even more.It also had a CDT trigger installed also.Touch the trigger and pow!I like a light trigger and shes great.I don't know what gas ram he used but it works great.She was pretty accurate before ram but with ram and new trigger she boring accurate to 30 yards.I really like the feel of the Carbine style rifles alot.If ya need any more info pm me and ill talk to ya about it more.
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPPRESSOR
Post by: Tarheel on January 29, 2012, 09:50:52 AM
in my case the velocity went up as i bought this gun used and it was still fairly new but was full of gunk.It is such a sweet gun now Thanks to Gene the Almighty! lol I wouldn't want another any other way now.After several hundred shots she leveled off at 780-790 fps and very quiet.I switched to a wood stock and that help her even more.It also had a CDT trigger installed also.Touch the trigger and pow!I like a light trigger and shes great.I don't know what gas ram he used but it works great.She was pretty accurate before ram but with ram and new trigger she boring accurate to 30 yards.I really like the feel of the Carbine style rifles alot.If ya need any more info pm me and ill talk to ya about it more.

Do you have the .177 or .22 cal version and which pellets were those velocities at ?

Thanks !

Dave
Title: Re: STOEGER X20S SUPPRESSOR
Post by: MustangMike on January 29, 2012, 06:32:28 PM
any one got the contact information for stoeger ? Curious if the baffles can be bought by them selves or if a barrel assembly can be bought..

Those baffles sure would make diy shrouds much easier