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rsterne:

--- Quote ---I can also appreciate the use of students.
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Absolutely.... There is no better way to understand something than to have to explain it to somebody else.... Listening to what they have to say doesn't hurt either....  ;)

Bob

TimmyMac1:

--- Quote from: rsterne on May 26, 2012, 10:57:27 PM ---
--- Quote ---I can also appreciate the use of students.
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Absolutely.... There is no better way to understand something than to have to explain it to somebody else.... Listening to what they have to say doesn't hurt either....  ;)

Bob

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Well done Bob,
I used to be such a math nerd but you have it worse than me. You're the guy in math club that would sit quietly in the back till everyone else had exhausted themselves over stepping their skill set. Then you would show the facts, correct way to approach problem, give the appropriate formula, graph it and then explain it in verbage for those that could not comprehend the math/graph.
In my math club guys like that were always the last man standing as the goal was to ask questions the standing guy could not answer. Once the questions stopped you ruled as long as the teacher saw it your way or was buried her/himself.
The point of the exercise was to get everyone up to their highest comprehension level by showing the relationships between the math, the graph and the mechanics of the relationship between the parameters.
For brains like mine it was well worth the lost play time to play brainiac and to tutor hot chicks.
For guys like you Math is cake and it is really nice to have someone here with the gift to explain the stuff and catch the foul balls without insulting the players, coach or Ump. Nice Work and thanks for being here. I learn a lot from you and I already know a lot.
I have spent my entire life facinated by subsonic flow dynamics and transonic air flow charachteristics. Internal and External Aero work is all over air gun technology and the more I study it the more I realize I will never completely understand it. The more you learn the more you realize you are just scraping the surface. I wish I had Adrian Neweys Brain(Head Designer at Red Bull Racing) to apply to airgun technology. Too bad the market doesn't support the R&D cost as we could see some cool stuff.
All I have is determination and a decent math skill set that lets me see it in graph form and where the data supports the direction I went.
It would be so cool to have a 5 million dollar lab to do all the testing but we don't even have computational fluid dynamics. Just seat of the pants knowledge and info from the disciplines that push the air flow threshholds. Formula one is one of those places where 20,000 psi @ 18,000 RPM is common stuff. The onboard pumps to actuate air return rather than conventional spring return for valves.

In math, aerodynamics and fluid dynamics of airguns we stand on the shoulders of giants. Geniuses are nice to have around! If you do your homework they can show you a lot. Giffard had some cool designs he never produced as far as I know. His drawings showed he had a fruitful mind with a limited budget. I know someone like that.

QVTom:
I'm my business, embedded systems, I have several of these "geniuses" that I regularly go to when I hopelessly lost.  I have learned that the most important skill is to ASK THE CORRECT QUESTION.  On may occasions I have not asked the correct question and only got the correct answer much later and in a unrelated conversation.  Then I would say, "remember the such and such project when I ask about this problem", the answer is always the same.  "That's not what you asked"

Tom

rsterne:

--- Quote ---the answer is always the same.  "That's not what you asked"
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YUP!.... ain't it the truth....

Tim, I'm also an F1 fan.... my racing days go back to when Hi-Tech was a Cosworth SCA (140 HP from a 1000 cc SOHC Anglia conversion).... I used to race a Morgan, which is about as far from F1 as you can get....

Bob

william71743:
You guys are AWESOME......  :-[ 8)

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