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« on: May 23, 2012, 11:46:35 PM »
i just found a crossman 392 PA 22 cal  in a pawn shop for 30 bucks its now mine. this is made here in the USA. anybody know tell how old is it ? it shoots fine little bit loose in the stock if i tighten the stock it wont pump up if i let it a bit loose it pumps just fine. what have i got? is it a keeper?
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Re: 392pa
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2012, 11:53:45 PM »
Look at the serial number. The 392 is a Crosman built rifle so it has a Crosman serial number. The first character is the month code 1 through 9 for January through September, O, N, or D for October, November or December.
Second two characters will be the year.
For example a gun with a serial that starts with 978 would have been built in September of '78.
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Re: 392pa
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2012, 11:56:34 PM »
  Not sure what's going on with it, but for $30.00 it's nice find. I picked up a Sheridan Silver Streak last week at a pawn shop for $70.00. I love the pawn shops for air guns.  ;D
 
You can check here to see when it was made.http://www.crosman.com/cs/dates-benjamin

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Re: 392pa
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2012, 11:57:56 PM »
Look at the serial number. The 392 is a Crosman built rifle so it has a Crosman serial number. The first character is the month code 1 through 9 for January through September, O, N, or D for October, November or December.
Second two characters will be the year.
For example a gun with a serial that starts with 978 would have been built in September of '78.

Cool, didn't know that, only found the serial number page a few weeks ago.
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Re: 392pa
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2012, 11:59:08 PM »
fo shizzle its a keeper, i sold my old 392. didnt start missing it until i got really hooked on airguns and realized what a big mistake i had made

i think its old enough and odds are abused enough to warrent a rebuild and a little bling bling, dont you think ?

send the stock the norm and let him work his magic on it, strip it down to the orings and either order them from www.mcmaster.com mcmaster also has what i consider to be upgraded orings. they have silicon orings which i hear handles heat better and i think would last a little longer. but their sold in packs of 10 for 10 bucks so ordering each size is gonna get a touch pricy but youve also built ur self up a some what decent spare oring stash.
you can also sourse parts directly from crosman, i think since it could be a discountinued model or something. www.crosman.com bottem right hand corner of the screen look for parts diagrams and find ur model make sure its a crosman and not a benjamin. crosman divides up their parts diagrams and parts list keeping crosman sperate from benjamin.


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Re: 392pa
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2012, 12:02:31 AM »
Thanks for that info on serial numbers, gonna go check my 392PA and see when it was made. Congrats cody, sounds like you got a good deal, paid 100 for mine used, theres a NIB PA in the classifieds right now, a 98' model, for 2 hundred. You did good. I like them because they are modern enough to find parts for, yet made with no/little plastic and had walnut stocks. Bought mine to send off to Mac1 for a steroid treatment(internal refurb resulting in much more consistent power) but have not sent her away yet. Congrats on your find.  J
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Re: 392pa
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2012, 12:11:06 AM »
This is the nb#207700214 . its all brass and its a ball to shoot.
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Re: 392pa
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2012, 12:22:09 AM »
This is the nb#207700214 . its all brass and its a ball to shoot.

That would make your Feb. 2007 then.

Just checked my 397pa ... Oct. 1995. Was almost new when I bought it for $25.00 at a garage sale back then, lol.
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Re: 392pa
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2012, 12:44:40 AM »
thanx that helps now i know what i have
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Re: 392pa
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2015, 02:23:23 AM »
the 'PA' after model number designates "Pump Assist" and its a Mod done by 3rd party for Benjamin/Crosman a few years ago where a 3rd set of levers is added to the pump handle (compare how it looks to standard models 2 lever design) this has been talked about and youtube videos on it on the web. it reduces the force needed to pump gun by half with a cantilever system while not lowering pressure or adding strokes needed to do the same job. it should be adopted by Benjamin on all multi pump guns so kids and elderly can better use them. it would increase sales 5x at least for those model guns and not add much cost at all to manufacturing nor change how gun looks or shoots. its only noticable while pumping. I would very much like to get one of these guns in not just 177 and 22 calibers but also 2ocal and BB for me and grand-kids to enjoy. it stays under 14lbs of force through 8 pumps where standard models increase to 30lbs by 8 pumps. yet can handle increased pressure adjustment to boost velocity to over 700fps at 8 pumps which is max factory recommendations. there is also a 5 part review on this on Pyramidair site archives. I think its the best mod ever on a 70 year old design and makes such guns much more desirable. the Sheridan streak lines could also use it. and Crosman multi pumps if still made. also Crosman should consider re-introducing 20cal rifles and pistols to the multi pump and CO2 lines. at least customs.
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Re: 392pa
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2015, 12:26:34 PM »
the 'PA' after model number designates "Pump Assist" and its a Mod done by 3rd party for Benjamin/Crosman a few years ago where a 3rd set of levers is added to the pump handle (compare how it looks to standard models 2 lever design) this has been talked about and youtube videos on it on the web. it reduces the force needed to pump gun by half with a cantilever system while not lowering pressure or adding strokes needed to do the same job. it should be adopted by Benjamin on all multi pump guns so kids and elderly can better use them. it would increase sales 5x at least for those model guns and not add much cost at all to manufacturing nor change how gun looks or shoots. its only noticable while pumping. I would very much like to get one of these guns in not just 177 and 22 calibers but also 2ocal and BB for me and grand-kids to enjoy. it stays under 14lbs of force through 8 pumps where standard models increase to 30lbs by 8 pumps. yet can handle increased pressure adjustment to boost velocity to over 700fps at 8 pumps which is max factory recommendations. there is also a 5 part review on this on Pyramidair site archives. I think its the best mod ever on a 70 year old design and makes such guns much more desirable. the Sheridan streak lines could also use it. and Crosman multi pumps if still made. also Crosman should consider re-introducing 20cal rifles and pistols to the multi pump and CO2 lines. at least customs.
Hello Mitch, just checked mine and I have a 392PA and a 397PA and can't tell any difference pumping over my 1961 or 1968  Blue Streak. I think the Streaks might be a little easier to pump. I do see where the 392 and 397 have what looks like a extra spring (wire) in the pump handle. They are all fun to shoot.
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Re: 392pa
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2015, 02:06:32 PM »
I believe PA is a acronym for Pump Airgun.

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Re: 392pa
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2015, 04:03:18 PM »
the 'PA' after model number designates "Pump Assist" and its a Mod done by 3rd party for Benjamin/Crosman a few years ago where a 3rd set of levers is added to the pump handle (compare how it looks to standard models 2 lever design) this has been talked about and youtube videos on it on the web. it reduces the force needed to pump gun by half with a cantilever system while not lowering pressure or adding strokes needed to do the same job. it should be adopted by Benjamin on all multi pump guns so kids and elderly can better use them. it would increase sales 5x at least for those model guns and not add much cost at all to manufacturing nor change how gun looks or shoots. its only noticable while pumping. I would very much like to get one of these guns in not just 177 and 22 calibers but also 2ocal and BB for me and grand-kids to enjoy. it stays under 14lbs of force through 8 pumps where standard models increase to 30lbs by 8 pumps. yet can handle increased pressure adjustment to boost velocity to over 700fps at 8 pumps which is max factory recommendations. there is also a 5 part review on this on Pyramidair site archives. I think its the best mod ever on a 70 year old design and makes such guns much more desirable. the Sheridan streak lines could also use it. and Crosman multi pumps if still made. also Crosman should consider re-introducing 20cal rifles and pistols to the multi pump and CO2 lines. at least customs.

actually, the PA designation was the second variant designation used by Benjamin/Sheridan, after the takeover by Benjamin, and after the move to the New York state plant. the P designation was the first variant, also the last of the soldered valve guns, made in Racine, WI., under the Benjamin/Sheridan label. crosman wasn't in the picture, at that point.
the PA on the gun has absolutely nothing to do with the aftermarket pump assist mod.
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Re: 392pa
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2015, 02:46:17 PM »
I must have very late production 397P.  Soldered valve but made in NY.
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2015, 03:08:32 PM »
I must have very late production 397P.  Soldered valve but made in NY.
that would be one of what are commonly called "transition " guns. they were still using up the last of the racine parts, before switching over to the NY production. that's why, if you look at the receiver tube, you'll see two holes in the underside. the forward most hole is for the stock stud/ valve stud, when used with the removable valve, while the rearward hole is for the two piece stud assembly, used with the soldered valve. the stocks could also be walnut, or, "American hardwood ",( what ever that is ). if your gun is marked P, and is made in NY, but, has a soldered valve, you actually have a fairly rare one. I haven't seen many of that configuration.
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Re: 392pa
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2015, 09:21:21 PM »
I have at least one with both holes. Maybe 2. Ain't gonna check right now though.  :D
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