Author Topic: Crosman Custom 2300kt Recommendations (Read 1449 times)

Northwoods · « **on:** February 04, 2012, 11:26:14 PM »

I have a RWS 34 and a 48. Im looking to get a nice pistol and came across the crosman custom series. Im pretty open, i am just looking for recommendations for the configuration and also must have upgrades.

Use: target shooting
budget: >300

Thanks in advance!

breakfastchef · « **Reply #1 on:** February 04, 2012, 11:40:56 PM »

The Crosman Custom Shop does a very good job. The 2300KT is an excellent choice (I own one) and is very customizable. The tube is not stamped like the production pistols, rather the writing looks to be laser engraved. Nice touch. At minimum, get a nice set of target grips - left or right. These feel great.

Northwoods · « **Reply #2 on:** February 04, 2012, 11:45:17 PM »

are those an option via crosman? Or are they aftermarket? What sites sell aftermarket parts for the 2300? Also can anyone explain how the power tuner works? Where are they available from?

mustangmike · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2012, 12:30:10 AM »

that is a multi shot brech with full shroud, barrel band for a shroud, the grips i think might have been made by a member here.. i think i remember seeing them in another post..

bobster · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2012, 12:30:24 AM »

Here is a possible thought process you may wish to use:

1) Decide what you're priorities are, in order of highest to lowest, such as 1. Power 2. Lack of noise 3. Accuracy 4. Looks (all the following items should be made with these priorities in mind)

2) Determine caliber and barrel quality and length (i.e. Lothar 10" .177 or 14" crosman .22 etc.)

3) Determine if you want to go with CO2 or High Pressure Air (HPA) (Note that HPA tube length can be limited by barrel length)

4) Order the base gun and the maximum amount of low cost upgrades via crosman custom shop (i.e. lothar is $37 instead of $100, Long steel breach for scope is cheaper than buying separately, black or silver trigger guard is only $3.47, 14" barrel is dirt cheap) and use the maximum % off code you can get (see your personal messages please) off the whole thing. The reason i say this is many upgrades are cheaper when bought as part of the custom shop package and all are subject to the % off code.

5) Buy other upgrades as desired (e.g. TKO brake, mellonair power adjuster, boss valve, Hi-Pac HPA) fancy sights, grips, stocks, blah, blah blah

Or another tactic is to simply call Mountainair, Crooked barn etc. and they can make it for you directly with everything. basically if you aren't comfortable modding the gun yourself you can go with these guys and get a great gun.

Northwoods · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2012, 12:40:15 AM »

Thanks, ill go over all these questions. I thought this was a co2 gun only? Hows hpa work with it?

bobster · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2012, 12:44:07 AM »

Suggest Googling hi-pac hpa (also google tko and other names mentioned above) . It's a big decision in that it needs a pump or air source (much easier for those already shooting PCP). But opens up possibilities because it becomes a PCP gun.

Northwoods · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2012, 12:47:31 AM »

Thanks, i have a lot more research to do now

bobster · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2012, 12:52:46 AM »

Also I forgot to mention that the tko brake adds a lot to overall length which may influence your barrel length decision. F.e. a 6.5inch break overlaps the barrel one inch and therefore adds 5.5" of length. For me I determined the maximum barrel +tko length I could live with and worked backwards to get ideal barrel length (keeping in mind the priorities I had of quietness, power, accuracy and looks).

Northwoods · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2012, 12:57:17 AM »

Whats a break really do on an airgun? Make it balance better when handling it? Does it actually act as part of the barrel?

bobster · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2012, 12:58:53 AM »

GTA rules state we can not talk about reducing sound of airguns here so I won't talk about that.

mustangmike · « **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2012, 12:59:43 AM »

there are other options for going hpa then a hipac

if you want more power order a disco valve $13, disco fill adapter $18.73 and order a disco airtube $18ish, also need a disco gauge assy.. then find a member here or some one local to you that can cut and rethread the disco airtube..
you now have a pcp carbine that makes 150+fps more then a hipac system and almost double the fpe of a hipac system..

you will spend a little more then the cost of a hipac system but you gain double the performance.. everything i just said is from a hunters point of view.. if ur just punching paper then by all means go the cheaper/less powerful route and get the hipac system

bobster · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2012, 01:02:55 AM »

Hey Mustangmike, doesn't that multi-shot breach come from Cobra airguns only or are they just one outlet that sells it? There were some absolutely horrible reviews of Cobra in the "company in the buyers, seller, traders..." section of GTA.

BTW, good info. on non Hi-pac HPA stuff! Me like!

Also Northwoods, shrouds are even more effective than brakes from what I hear (don't hear? ha ha).

mustangmike · « **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2012, 01:04:52 AM »

Quote from: Northwoods on February 05, 2012, 12:57:17 AM

Whats a break really do on an airgun? Make it balance better when handling it? Does it actually act as part of the barrel?

a tko brake is a ldc (lead dust collecter) it makes the rifle backyard friendly. certain names cannot be used here.. dont want to attract any negative attention.. if you buy a pcp that does not have a full shrouded barrel id suggest contacting mike at tko airguns and getting a ldc made for it..

i have a 7.5" tko ldc on my custom shop 2400kt, it works extremely well as m y neighbores got a little ticked when i first started shooting in my backyard and i have a big backyard.. about 20yrds x 25yrds square...

both my guns have tko ldc's on them
ccs 2400kt

modified discovery

mustangmike · « **Reply #14 on:** February 05, 2012, 01:05:54 AM »

cobra was the only people selling multi shot breechs.. untill sergio got his place up and running, from what ive been hearing these new multi shot breechs are very very good

http://bnm111.hpage.com/

bobster · « **Reply #15 on:** February 05, 2012, 01:29:36 AM »

Also I was just thinking PCP or bulk fill CO2 should improve accuracy due to more consistency between shots? Also I would assume PCP would improve accuracy due to less variance due to ambient temp?

mustangmike · « **Reply #16 on:** February 05, 2012, 01:34:41 AM »

pcp will give you the most consistancy... co2 is ok for closer in work but for longer ranges when you need the shots to have the same amount of power behind them i would go pcp..

and yes hpa wont differ as much as co2 when the airtemp changes..

bobster · « **Reply #17 on:** February 05, 2012, 01:42:38 AM »

That makes sense to me. Also I don't want to give Northwoods the impression that stock c02 is inaccurate. It is accurate. Just talking more hypotheticals and generalities here. My stock 2240 is so much more accurate than the gamo pt-85 socom I bought that's its not even in the same league. C02 lasts over twice as long also compared to the gamo. I ordered a 2300 one with the lothar .177 barrel and I'm curious how accurate that one will be.

mustangmike · « **Reply #18 on:** February 05, 2012, 01:52:58 AM »

my 2400kt shoots decent and gets idk 35ish shots per 12gram co2.. but as for how consistant it was it left me wanting more.. but i tested mine when the airtemp was 65ish or 70ish outside..

between co2 and hpa, i will go hpa any day.. i like the consistancy and the power is vury nice as well

breakfastchef · « **Reply #19 on:** February 05, 2012, 10:23:57 AM »

My 2300KT is modified with aftermarket parts. The grips were from the Custom Shop, Underneath the glam it is still a basic 2300KT.

Based on the types of questions you are asking in this thread, you are new to air guns. I was to last year, too. My recommendation is to order a 2300KT with nice grips and some sort of sight. Read all the instructions that comes with the pistol and learn to shoot it just the way it comes from Crosman. Read and learn for a period of time before making any significant investment in the gun without understanding what you are getting into.

One basic thing you can do to a Crosman pistol is a trigger tune. This will make the trigger operate smoother. Download the parts diagram of a 2240 from Crosman and learn the parts - the 2300 is essentially based on the 240 platform.

Quote from: Northwoods on February 04, 2012, 11:45:17 PM

are those an option via crosman? Or are they aftermarket? What sites sell aftermarket parts for the 2300? Also can anyone explain how the power tuner works? Where are they available from?

Quote from: Northwoods on February 04, 2012, 11:45:17 PM

are those an option via crosman? Or are they aftermarket? What sites sell aftermarket parts for the 2300? Also can anyone explain how the power tuner works? Where are they available from?