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Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« on: February 01, 2012, 07:37:58 PM »
Saw some videos and these 710 fps 40 grain rounds sound about like an airgun.  Anyone ever tried them?

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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2012, 07:45:28 PM »
Yes.  I used to use them before I got into airguns.  Except I was only getting like 400 fps out of a rifle.  Shot alot of crows with those. 

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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2012, 07:59:31 PM »
If you have a bolt action or single shot, try the shorts, they are a lot quieter
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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2012, 08:00:10 PM »
Wow at 400fps a guy would have to start worrying about the bullet getting stuck in the barrel maybe.  I just bought a Ruger mark III and I don't think these would have enough power to cycle the bolt.  But they had a new .22 revolver with 2 cylinders (22 LR and 22 magnum) for only $129 so I couldn't resist.  Those low power rounds should work excellent in a revolver I would think.  I'm very curious how loud they would be relative to an airgun.  Here are the Mark III and the revolver pics.  To me, the crosman 2240 and ruger mark III both have those classic Luger lines which I love.

Here is the link for the revolver FYI.  It got good reviews as far as I can tell.  http://www.nwarmory.com/p-11343-her-rr22mb6bxcsafl-civil-war-comm-fl.aspx
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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2012, 08:07:21 PM »
Wow at 400fps a guy would have to start worrying about the bullet getting stuck in the barrel maybe.  I just bought a Ruger mark III and I don't think these would have enough power to cycle the bolt.  But they had a new .22 revolver with 2 cylinders (22 LR and 22 magnum) for only $129 so I couldn't resist.  Those low power rounds should work excellent in a revolver I would think.  I'm very curious how loud they would be relative to an airgun.  Here are the Mark III and the revolver pics.  To me, the crosman 2240 and ruger mark III both have those classic Luger lines which I love.

Here is the link for the revolver FYI.  It got good reviews as far as I can tell.  http://www.nwarmory.com/p-11343-her-rr22mb6bxcsafl-civil-war-comm-fl.aspx

I have the mark II.  Same gun really and there is not enough power to cycle the bolt.  Also, they are louder out of a pistol due to the short barrel.  Sounds like a Discovery without TKO.

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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2012, 08:08:27 PM »
I also agree that the classic luger  looks are awesome.

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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2012, 08:08:37 PM »
Shot the CCI "CB Short" .... There very quiet from a rifle barrel
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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2012, 08:26:16 PM »
Why reinvent the wheel when the perfectly good and time tested CB short is available?
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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2012, 08:52:11 PM »
they seem to have the same exact spects as cci cb longs, i use those in all my .22s.
they even feed in my 10/22. they wont cycle the action of a semi-auto though. ( you have to pull the bolt back yourself) and the new "quiet" LRs press release claims it wont cycle an auto loader either, so , really, i dont see the point unless your magazine absolutely wont feed a .22 cb long.(which are a ton of fun btw)
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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2012, 09:18:05 PM »
Or CB caps which are primer power only !! ...
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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2012, 09:21:12 PM »
sure would like to find a quiet Rimfire (low power) for my .22 WMR Lever action.
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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2012, 09:25:59 PM »
ive tried quite a few different ones.....you got the shorts, the quiet long rifles, aguila makes one thats no powder just a high powered cap, and theres a 60 grain low noise that aguila makes too.  The low powered long rifle was the most consistent for me, like 40 grains at 740fps, i got really nice groups at 20 yards, but not a very flat trajectory so you really have to know your distances and the drop.  Noise wise out of a rifle, they all were about like a quiet pcp, and none of them have the power to cycle the action of a semi-auto.

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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2012, 09:29:29 PM »
Aguila are actually what I used.  They have a humming bird on the pack. 

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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2012, 10:19:36 PM »
I have used these and CB shorts   they are quiet out of a rifle but out of pistol they are loud
I have a Ruger MKIII and it bangs loud with these  they dont cycle bolt but I can hand feed them
Also they were even louder out of my Ruger Single six revolver

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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2012, 12:43:46 AM »
Dang so they are quiet in a rifle but loud in a pistol... so the revolver I bought may not be the solution.  I guess I'm forced into only one option, something in between a pistol and rifle.  Only one gun fits the bill, the Mare's Leg! 

Just kidding about the forced part.  I saw this in the local gun shop and am dying to have a reason to justify buying this gun.  This is a copy of that Mare's leg that Steve mcqueen used to shoot.  He used to pull it out of it's holster and cock it by spinning it around.  Looked so cool!  Silly really.  I REALLY don't need another gun but the darn thing looks so neat.  They are only 25" long.

This guy is doing that spin cock thing with a jbcustom high end one

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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2012, 05:22:22 AM »
sure would like to find a quiet Rimfire (low power) for my .22 WMR Lever action.

You have a quieter option, albeit not in the CB class, but something that will still allow you to fire less noisy and powerful ammo in your WMR.
The old .22 WRF (Winchester Rim Fire) round, which is now being manufactured again all these years later by CCI and Winchester.
It's an older cartridge than the WMR, created clear back in 1890, then discontinued for decades, but once again available, mainly for older guns, but it headspaces exactly the same as the WMR, so it is completely safe to fire in guns so chambered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_WRF

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1301126619/cci-ammunition-22-winchester-rimfire-wrf-45-grain-jacketed-hollow-point

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2900530436/winchester-ammunition-22-winchester-rimfire-wrf-45-grain-plated-lead-flat-nose
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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2012, 02:20:38 PM »
That's pretty cool but probably just as loud as a .22 LR. Also it's 4mm shorter than a .22 WMR so I wonder if it will properly chamber in the lever action?
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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2012, 02:28:22 PM »
The quitest ive found and are pretty quiet outta my pistol even is the aguilla 350 fps rounds they are quiet and accurate outta my rifle and pistol

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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2012, 04:38:32 PM »
That's pretty cool but probably just as loud as a .22 LR. Also it's 4mm shorter than a .22 WMR so I wonder if it will properly chamber in the lever action?

There are no guarantees, but I would be willing to bet they will chamber just fine.
My Marlin 39A can chamber a magazine of mixed .22LR, .22 Long, and .22 Shorts without a single hiccup.
It's not the same caliber as yours, but it's quite likely WRF would still work for yours.
The WRF may not be in the CB category of quiet, but it would be better for hunting bushytails and rabbits instead of the WMR in my opinion.
My dad has a Mossberg chambered in WMR, and he doesn't like using it on small game because it's just a bit too powerful and wrecks a lot of the meat.
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Re: Anyone ever shoot CCI quiet-22 powder burner ammo?
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2012, 06:17:45 PM »
Just did some indoor testing of the "cb long" and "cb short" rounds.  I don't get the pistols until next week so I used the 10/22.  I used the free iphone app "decibel ultra" and set the phone about 10 feet away with the microphone pointing away from the sound source.

I used duct seal to make the trap silent so there was no sound coming from the trap.

1) Crosman 2240 .22 CO2-powered airgun pistol.  No modifications.  14.3 grain, about 430 fps or so =

102 decibels

2) CCI CB long in a 10/22 (unmodified) 710 fps 29 grain =

102 decibels

3)  CCI CB short in a 10/22 (unmodified) 710 fps 29 grain =

103 decibels

This is consistent with what I would judge with my naked ear.  The first two sounded exactly the same and the short was noticeably louder.  Decibel scale is not linear in terms of perceived sound, so even a few dB increase is very noticeable.

So using these rounds in a 10/22 makes the same noise as a standard 2240.  I'm impressed to say the least.  Can't wait to see how the pistols test out.  I hope they aren't crazy higher.
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