880, 2100, or M417?

[SquirrelSniper25]

I'm looking to buy a cheap pumper for taking sparrows and doves and maybe a squirrel or 2 off my bird feeder. I want it to be very, very accurate, so I can take headshots. My feeder is 20 yards away from my porch but I'll probably cut it back to 15. Just want a simple gun, tired of the hold sensitive trail. I may plink a little with it too. I would be interested in any simple accuracy and/or power mods that can be done to these too. The M4 is just about outta the equation since it cost twice as much as the other 2 and goes 100 fps slower. Looks really cool though. The 880 has a single stage trigger that breaks at 7 pounds, with a total overall length of 37.6 inches and weighs 3.1 pounds. The 2100 has a 2 stage non adjustable trigger that is supposed to break at 4.75 pounds with a total overall length of 39.75 inches and weighs 4.8 pounds. I am only using pellets. I plan on going with the deal at PA with the scope included. Any input on these 2 or 3 guns and what pellets they like would be appreciated. I put this in the hunting gate because I am looking for a mainly hunting air rifle.

[longislandhunter]

I know it's not a pumper but how about one of Mike Mellicks B-12's ?  Supposed to be pretty darn close to R-7 performance and a real sweet shooter with his lube/tune.  Not to expensive either and would be perfect for your needs.  Just a suggestion.

Jeff

[SquirrelSniper25]

Thanks! Where would I find em and how much would they cost? Hopefully not as hold sensitive as the trail?

[aack73]

i will check the trigger on my m417. it feels a lot lighter than 4lbs. if that matters to ya.

[SquirrelSniper25]

i will check the trigger on my m417. it feels a lot lighter than 4lbs. if that matters to ya.

Not as much as the power and accuracy, I just put that up for the 2100 and 880 trying to see which is better.

[aack73]

to me that is a large part of shooting any gun accurately. mine shoots less than dime sized groups across a bag at 15yds. approximately 575fps with 7gr at 10 pumps and 640fps at 20 pumps. i get tired just typing 20 pumps lol

[SquirrelSniper25]

to me that is a large part of shooting any gun accurately. mine shoots less than dime sized groups across a bag at 15yds. approximately 575fps with 7gr at 10 pumps and 640fps at 20 pumps. i get tired just typing 20 pumps lol

Dang! Any mods done to it? They say never pump past 10 or the seals will blow. lol

[djdilliodon]

I have owned an 880, 2100, and even a 22 SG. The 2100 would be my choice hands down but please do go with those cheap 4x15 scopes that come with it. If you can spend a $90 ish go for the daisy 22 SG. It comes already with a decent scope and is 22 cal. It will kill upto squirrel size game out to about 25-30 yards. Also I have never owned a springer that wasn't hold sensitive .

[SquirrelSniper25]

I have owned an 880, 2100, and even a 22 SG. The 2100 would be my choice hands down but please do go with those cheap 4x15 scopes that come with it. If you can spend a $90 ish go for the daisy 22 SG. It comes already with a decent scope and is 22 cal. It will kill upto squirrel size game out to about 25-30 yards. Also I have never owned a springer that wasn't hold sensitive .

.22 cal is always better for hunting imo. Don't wanna throw that much money out on a beater gun that won't get much use after I get a nitrogen filling station built for my mrod. What makes the 2100 better than the 880 in your opinion? Thanks.

[djdilliodon]

I have owned an 880, 2100, and even a 22 SG. The 2100 would be my choice hands down but please do go with those cheap 4x15 scopes that come with it. If you can spend a $90 ish go for the daisy 22 SG. It comes already with a decent scope and is 22 cal. It will kill upto squirrel size game out to about 25-30 yards. Also I have never owned a springer that wasn't hold sensitive .

.22 cal is always better for hunting imo. Don't wanna throw that much money out on a beater gun that won't get much use after I get a nitrogen filling station built for my mrod. What makes the 2100 better than the 880 in your opinion? Thanks.

I've owned a total of two 880's and two 2100's. The 2100's I've owned felt better on the shoulder to me and feel to have better build quality. Both of my 2100's where more accurate than my 880's. The first 880 I had the seals failed and it wouldn't hold air after a year of use. The second one I had no problems with after owning it for 2 years but gave it to my nephew who is still using it today making that gun 4 years old. IMO the 2100 is hard to beat and the only other AG pump I'd take that's under a 100 bux would be the 22 SG.

[SquirrelSniper25]

I have owned an 880, 2100, and even a 22 SG. The 2100 would be my choice hands down but please do go with those cheap 4x15 scopes that come with it. If you can spend a $90 ish go for the daisy 22 SG. It comes already with a decent scope and is 22 cal. It will kill upto squirrel size game out to about 25-30 yards. Also I have never owned a springer that wasn't hold sensitive .

.22 cal is always better for hunting imo. Don't wanna throw that much money out on a beater gun that won't get much use after I get a nitrogen filling station built for my mrod. What makes the 2100 better than the 880 in your opinion? Thanks.

I've owned a total of two 880's and two 2100's. The 2100's I've owned felt better on the shoulder to me and feel to have better build quality. Both of my 2100's where more accurate than my 880's. The first 880 I had the seals failed and it wouldn't hold air after a year of use. The second one I had no problems with after owning it for 2 years but gave it to my nephew who is still using it today making that gun 4 years old. IMO the 2100 is hard to beat and the only other AG pump I'd take that's under a 100 bux would be the 22 SG.

Thanks for the input! Will have a 2100 soon! Not as soon as I would like though. Gotta order a GRT and 4 more diff. types of pellets for my XL. Then pellets and a scope for my mrod... Won't need it till spring anyway. The 22SG is no longer made.

[SquirrelSniper25]

Anyone know of any easy power or accuracy mods you can do to the 2100?

[Lambchops]

My choice would be the 2100. Simple power mods are available lile a flat top piston.

[SquirrelSniper25]

My choice would be the 2100. Simple power mods are available lile a flat top piston.

Thanks! Where could I get a flat top?

[Lambchops]

My choice would be the 2100. Simple power mods are available lile a flat top piston.

Thanks! Where could I get a flat top?

I believe mellonair.com has one?

[SquirrelSniper25]

My choice would be the 2100. Simple power mods are available lile a flat top piston.

Thanks! Where could I get a flat top?

I believe mellonair.com has one?

I'll check. Thanks!

[Fisherdude]

I have an 880 that is a great backyard rifle.  It works best with Predator pellets and a head shot.  It is extremely accurate.  I added a 1 inch spacer to the butt and made a LDC for the front.  Couldn't do much for the trigger.

[SquirrelSniper25]

I have an 880 that is a great backyard rifle.  It works best with Predator pellets and a head shot.  It is extremely accurate.  I added a 1 inch spacer to the butt and made a LDC for the front.  Couldn't do much for the trigger.

Very nice! Thinking I like crosman's products more than Daisy's though.

[Lambchops]

I have an 880 that is a great backyard rifle.  It works best with Predator pellets and a head shot.  It is extremely accurate.  I added a 1 inch spacer to the butt and made a LDC for the front.  Couldn't do much for the trigger.

Very nice! Thinking I like crosman's products more than Daisy's though.

Don't count out the 880. That would be my second choice. Lastly, the M417 because of its overly low velocity.

[xXcrosmanhunterXx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3qHC7bzi-w
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A decently in depth review on the 2100, very well put together, I mean hey, Ted always has uploads nice videos!